Date: 10/22/25 9:49 am From: Taylor Leesnitzer <tleesnitzer...> Subject: Re: Garden Heights-SORA Richmond Heights.
The employees of GH are aware that this is abnormal but haven’t seen the
Sora. If they see it again, they know to attempt to contain and contact a
local licensed rehabilitation facility for evaluation and treatment if
necessary.
On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 11:08 AM Bill Eddleman <eddlemanw48...>
wrote:
> Rallids (rails, coots, gallinules) are night migrants and land if is
> getting too light early in the morning or (I suspect) if they run out of
> fuel (fat reserves). Short of catching and releasing it in more appropriate
> habitat, there’s not a lot to be done.
>
> ——Bill Eddleman, Cape Girardeau
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 10:59 AM David Becher <davidbecher...> wrote:
>
>> A Sora should have no difficulty taking off. Loons and Grebes are the
>> species that have to be rescued.
>> David Becher
>> St. Louis
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Lisa Saffell <lesfstl...>
>> Date: 10/22/25 8:28 AM (GMT-06:00)
>> To: <MOBIRDS-L...>
>> Subject: Re: Garden Heights-SORA Richmond Heights.
>>
>> Tony,
>> Let me know if they need help trying to capture it. I’m not too far away.
>>
>>
>> “A bird does not sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has a
>> song.” — Maya Angelou
>>
>> Lisa Saffell, St. Louis
>> @instagram.com/lisasaffell
>> @instagram.com/stl_birder
>>
>> On Oct 21, 2025, at 8:53 PM, Lottie Bushmann <lottie.bushmann...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> No! Not normal. My understanding is that they make the mistake of landing
>> on wet black asphalt thinking it’s water. They need to be on water to
>> actually take off and fly. So he needs to be rescued. Hopefully someone on
>> here can help and advise you on next steps.
>>
>> Lottie Bushmann
>> Columbia Mo
>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2025 at 6:19 PM Tony Forsythe <tonyf...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My wife works at Garden Heights in Richmond Heights. Back on the 5th of
>>> October they sent me a picture of a bird that was running around parking
>>> lot. It was a Sora. Not the typical habitat for a Sora. I assumed it was
>>> migrating through and would be gone the next day. The employees texted
>>> today and said it’s still there and they are getting concerned.
>>>
>>> Is this normal for a Sora to be here this late in the year?
>>>
>>> Tony Forsythe
>>>
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Date: 10/22/25 9:08 am From: Bill Eddleman <eddlemanw48...> Subject: Re: Garden Heights-SORA Richmond Heights.
Rallids (rails, coots, gallinules) are night migrants and land if is
getting too light early in the morning or (I suspect) if they run out of
fuel (fat reserves). Short of catching and releasing it in more appropriate
habitat, there’s not a lot to be done.
——Bill Eddleman, Cape Girardeau
On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 10:59 AM David Becher <davidbecher...> wrote:
> A Sora should have no difficulty taking off. Loons and Grebes are the
> species that have to be rescued.
> David Becher
> St. Louis
>
>
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Lisa Saffell <lesfstl...>
> Date: 10/22/25 8:28 AM (GMT-06:00)
> To: <MOBIRDS-L...>
> Subject: Re: Garden Heights-SORA Richmond Heights.
>
> Tony,
> Let me know if they need help trying to capture it. I’m not too far away.
>
>
> “A bird does not sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has a
> song.” — Maya Angelou
>
> Lisa Saffell, St. Louis
> @instagram.com/lisasaffell
> @instagram.com/stl_birder
>
> On Oct 21, 2025, at 8:53 PM, Lottie Bushmann <lottie.bushmann...>
> wrote:
>
>
> No! Not normal. My understanding is that they make the mistake of landing
> on wet black asphalt thinking it’s water. They need to be on water to
> actually take off and fly. So he needs to be rescued. Hopefully someone on
> here can help and advise you on next steps.
>
> Lottie Bushmann
> Columbia Mo
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2025 at 6:19 PM Tony Forsythe <tonyf...>
> wrote:
>
>> My wife works at Garden Heights in Richmond Heights. Back on the 5th of
>> October they sent me a picture of a bird that was running around parking
>> lot. It was a Sora. Not the typical habitat for a Sora. I assumed it was
>> migrating through and would be gone the next day. The employees texted
>> today and said it’s still there and they are getting concerned.
>>
>> Is this normal for a Sora to be here this late in the year?
>>
>> Tony Forsythe
>>
>>
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Date: 10/22/25 8:59 am From: David Becher <davidbecher...> Subject: Re: Garden Heights-SORA Richmond Heights.
A Sora should have no difficulty taking off. Loons and Grebes are the species that have to be rescued.
David Becher
St. Louis
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: Lisa Saffell <lesfstl...>
Date: 10/22/25 8:28 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: <MOBIRDS-L...>
Subject: Re: Garden Heights-SORA Richmond Heights.
Tony,
Let me know if they need help trying to capture it. I’m not too far away.
“A bird does not sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has a song.” — Maya Angelou
Lisa Saffell, St. Louis
@instagram.com/lisasaffell
@instagram.com/stl_birder
On Oct 21, 2025, at 8:53 PM, Lottie Bushmann <lottie.bushmann...> wrote:
No! Not normal. My understanding is that they make the mistake of landing on wet black asphalt thinking it’s water. They need to be on water to actually take off and fly. So he needs to be rescued. Hopefully someone on here can help and advise you on next steps.
Lottie Bushmann
Columbia Mo
On Tue, Oct 21, 2025 at 6:19 PM Tony Forsythe <tonyf...><mailto:<tonyf...>> wrote:
My wife works at Garden Heights in Richmond Heights. Back on the 5th of October they sent me a picture of a bird that was running around parking lot. It was a Sora. Not the typical habitat for a Sora. I assumed it was migrating through and would be gone the next day. The employees texted today and said it’s still there and they are getting concerned.
Is this normal for a Sora to be here this late in the year?
Tony Forsythe
AppointLink Higher Education Power Tools
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Date: 10/22/25 6:11 am From: Anne McCormack <mccormack491...> Subject: WGNSS birding this week Oct. 23 and 25
On *Thursday*, Oct. 23, we will meet at the Teal Pond parking lot at 8:00,
at Wise Rd. and Riverlands Way, just before you get to the Audubon Center
at Riverlands <https://maps.app.goo.gl/XFHUCeizWUSN8hmZ6>. We'll have our
choice of locations to check out: Riverlands Way, Heron Pond, Orton
Rd., Lincoln Shields, or Confluence State Park. See the small attached map.
Review your guide book's W Meadowlark and Am Pipit 🤞42° to 61° sunny, wind
from NW and N
On *Saturday*, Oct. 25, we will meet at the Visitor Center at Busch
Conservation Area <https://maps.app.goo.gl/rpkGDDsFPZYQc9Zz9> at 8:00 AM.
Review your guide book's Fox Sparrow, Red-br Nuthatch and Y-B Sapsucker 🤞 48°
to 59° and cloudy.
Both days are expected to be good weather, but as always, be prepared for
some St. Louis-style changes. Water and bug spray, of course. Bring lunch
if you wish.
No! Not normal. My understanding is that they make the mistake of landing
on wet black asphalt thinking it’s water. They need to be on water to
actually take off and fly. So he needs to be rescued. Hopefully someone on
here can help and advise you on next steps.
Lottie Bushmann
Columbia Mo
On Tue, Oct 21, 2025 at 6:19 PM Tony Forsythe <tonyf...> wrote:
> My wife works at Garden Heights in Richmond Heights. Back on the 5th of
> October they sent me a picture of a bird that was running around parking
> lot. It was a Sora. Not the typical habitat for a Sora. I assumed it was
> migrating through and would be gone the next day. The employees texted
> today and said it’s still there and they are getting concerned.
>
> Is this normal for a Sora to be here this late in the year?
>
> Tony Forsythe
>
>
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My wife works at Garden Heights in Richmond Heights. Back on the 5th of October they sent me a picture of a bird that was running around parking lot. It was a Sora. Not the typical habitat for a Sora. I assumed it was migrating through and would be gone the next day. The employees texted today and said it’s still there and they are getting concerned.
Is this normal for a Sora to be here this late in the year?
Tony Forsythe
AppointLink Higher Education Power Tools
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Date: 10/18/25 8:01 am From: Daniel Getman <000003a484abda6a-dmarc-request...> Subject: Purple Finch - 1st of Fall
Yesterday, there was lots of bird activity in the yard, with flocks of Yellow-rumped Warblers, Chipping Sparrows and Cedar Waxwings.
Both the Cedar Waxwings and Yellow-rumped Warblers were constantly flying around and, at times, it was difficult to tell who was flying into the oak tree line. The numerous Chipping Sparrows and some Dark-eyed Juncos were busily foraging on the ground.
But the new arrival was a Purple Finch, the 1st of this fall. It was either a female or juvenile. Now I’m hoping for Pine Siskins.
Photos can be viewed at:
flickr.com/photos/dgetman/sets
No more views of the Eastern Screech Owl, but my haikubox has now picked up
It’s characteristic “whinny” call several times at night.
Dan Getman, Kirksville, northeast MO
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Date: 10/16/25 10:28 am From: Patrick Maloney <maloneypatrick...> Subject: Gadddy Garden - No sighting
Thanks to all who replied. Just about every reply echoes what I have been thinking about the decline in bird populations as a whole. As far as the "bubbler" goes, well when a new one is donated it is hard to look a gift horse in tghe mouth (as they say). Removing non-native4 species is generally a good idea too. Habitat loss, expanding use of pesticides, human expansion, all of these I agree will have an impact. Thanks again for the replies and let's all do our part (as we used to say in the Air Force) to keep 'em flying!
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Date: 10/16/25 10:27 am From: David Becher <davidbecher...> Subject: Re: Gaddy Garden - No Sighting
The new bubbler is not as attractive to birds as the old one, unfortunately. The old bubbler, most due to poor design, was usually surrounded by an area of shallow still water, that was attractive to many species. It was also prone to failures due to ruptures of the water feed lines, which were not deep enough underground. The new one has its flaws, but the biggest one is the lack of any ground cover in the immediate vicinity. The birds seem cautious about approaching. One point I have noticed in the spring migration, at least, is that the highest activity is later in the morning around 11 to 1 after most people have left. I am not sure if this is because the birds are done feeding and more interested in bathing or if the large number of people in the garden are making the birds unwilling to approach.
Some appropriate ground cover in the what are now bare areas around the bubbler and some properly constructed perch areas, would probably do wonders.
David Becher
Saint Louis
From: Missouri Wild Bird Forum <MOBIRDS-L...> On Behalf Of Margy Terpstra
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2025 8:40 AM
To: <MOBIRDS-L...>
Subject: Re: Gaddy Garden - No Sighting
As a WGNSS member and birder, I was invited to join in the discussions during several meetings in 2015-2016 about the bubbler area. Bill Reininger had become the new park director following John Karel’s retirement. Bill is still the director at the park. Ironically, our first meeting/walk-through was 10/16/2015, exactly ten years ago today.
This topic is water under the bridge, so to speak. The old bubbler was a mound of rocks, with one large fairly flat rock on top with a cistern beneath. City water was piped in and ‘bubbled’ on top, then flowed over the flat rock, filled the cistern and made a little wetland of the area for the plants and birds. The vegetation, some native (copper iris) offered cover for birds and a place for them to forage for insects. The water was turned off for the winter months so the pipes would not freeze. I have photos and could share a link if interested.
As I recall, there were 10-12 of us at those meetings. Other WGNSS members may remember other details. A gift had been given to the park specifically for a new bubbler, and a contractor had been chosen Our input was asked for and given, and the new bubbler was installed in winter of 2016. There is a stone maker that says, “Caroline Loughlin Fountain 2016”.
That’s the history in a nutshell. I don’t know the numbers of birds recorded at the old bubbler vs. the new. I don’t know how long the old bubbler had been in place, not sure I still have notes on all that, but a WGNSS member probably knows and it’s in the archives. The plaque on the old bubbler read, “In memory of Kyrle Boldt, 1904-1991”. So, sometime after 1991, I would think. That plaque is now on a bench in the garden, I believe.
Most of my birding is done here in our sanctuary. Our bubbler had been in operation since 10/21/2000, twenty-five full years in a few days. Birds need moving water wherever they forage, especially in this unseasonably warm and dry year. Consider how you might add a dripper over a bird bath at least to help our beloved birds!
On Oct 16, 2025, at 7:12 AM, Lisa Saffell <lesfstl...><mailto:<lesfstl...>> wrote:
I agree Patrick! I think the larger deeper and faster moving “bubbler” attracts people and dogs more so than small birds. Whenever I’m there I try to put some smaller limbs in the water so the little birds will feel safer but the water is just moving way too fast and it’s too deep. They promptly remove them anyway.
I was never there when it was smaller or when there were native plants but I feel like Gaddy Garden is a missed opportunity. I think a little education from the birding community for the people who maintain that area would be very beneficial if they were open to implementing some of the ideas.
“A bird does not sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has a song.” — Maya Angelou
Lisa Saffell, St. Louis
@instagram.com/lisasaffell
@instagram.com/stl_birder
On Oct 15, 2025, at 11:04 PM, Patrick Maloney <maloneypatrick...><mailto:<maloneypatrick...>> wrote:
While I have been birding for almost 50 years, lack of mobility and eyesight render me still in the neophyte range of the pastime. However, I did enjoy birding in Tower Grove Park, especially the Gaddy Garden where there were benches to sit at. Now, I have a question. Several years ago, the little bubbler was replaced with a larger - and deeper - waterfall and a lot of non-native vegetation was removed. Since that time, in my non-expert opinion, it seems that the quality of the birding, that is, the number and variety of species, seems to be reduced. Is that true? Does anyone else notice a decline? As I said, I am not an expert and do not get out as much as I once did, but I definitely feel that something has changed. Anyone else?
Pat Maloney
South St. Louis
Date: 10/16/25 9:47 am From: Edge Wade <1edgewade...> Subject: Re: Gaddy Garden - No Sighting
It has been too long since I've been at the water feature. I don't mean to
question or demean the observations or suggestions of causes, but do want
to comment on the reduced species/individuals being observed there.
Yes, the changes to the water feature and immediate area may be having an
adverse effect on the birds' desirability toward the site, but what you are
reporting regarding a single site is a microcosm reflecting what birders
are noting throughout the continent.
There are fewer birds being seen everywhere. The causes are myriad, and
largely of human origin. In addition to major habitat reduction and food
supply shortage due to insecticides, fires in breeding territories and the
migration routes may have had a significant impact on reproduction and
survival in the last 2-3 years.
Do what we can, where we can.
Edge Wade
<1edgewade...>
Columbia, MO
On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 10:09 AM Patricia Lueders <
<000003058c1f513a-dmarc-request...> wrote:
> Margy: Your report is right on, and I was part of that group that met
> with Bill as was St Louis Audubon, who especially encouraged the planting
> of natives. Other factors probably have contributed to a reduction in
> species, but I’m sure Bill would be interested in any suggestions on
> improving the bubbler from you and others with successful water features.
>
> Pat Lueders
> Webster Groves, MO
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 16, 2025, at 3:39 AM, Margy Terpstra <
> <0000049583b18162-dmarc-request...> wrote:
>
> As a WGNSS member and birder, I was invited to join in the discussions
> during several meetings in 2015-2016 about the bubbler area. Bill Reininger
> had become the new park director following John Karel’s retirement. Bill is
> still the director at the park. Ironically, our first meeting/walk-through
> was 10/16/2015, exactly ten years ago today.
>
> This topic is water under the bridge, so to speak. The old bubbler was a
> mound of rocks, with one large fairly flat rock on top with a cistern
> beneath. City water was piped in and ‘bubbled’ on top, then flowed over the
> flat rock, filled the cistern and made a little wetland of the area for the
> plants and birds. The vegetation, some native (copper iris) offered cover
> for birds and a place for them to forage for insects. The water was turned
> off for the winter months so the pipes would not freeze. I have photos and
> could share a link if interested.
>
> As I recall, there were 10-12 of us at those meetings. Other WGNSS members
> may remember other details. A gift had been given to the park specifically
> for a new bubbler, and a contractor had been chosen Our input was asked for
> and given, and the new bubbler was installed in winter of 2016. There is a
> stone maker that says, “Caroline Loughlin Fountain 2016”.
>
> That’s the history in a nutshell. I don’t know the numbers of birds
> recorded at the old bubbler vs. the new. I don’t know how long the old
> bubbler had been in place, not sure I still have notes on all that, but a
> WGNSS member probably knows and it’s in the archives. The plaque on the old
> bubbler read, “In memory of Kyrle Boldt, 1904-1991”. So, sometime after
> 1991, I would think. That plaque is now on a bench in the garden, I
> believe.
>
> Most of my birding is done here in our sanctuary. Our bubbler had been in
> operation since 10/21/2000, twenty-five full years in a few days. Birds
> need moving water wherever they forage, especially in this unseasonably
> warm and dry year. Consider how you might add a dripper over a bird bath at
> least to help our beloved birds!
>
>
> Margy Terpstra
> https://hummerhavenunltd.com/ > <ladybirdterp...>
>
>
>
> On Oct 16, 2025, at 7:12 AM, Lisa Saffell <lesfstl...> wrote:
>
> I agree Patrick! I think the larger deeper and faster moving “bubbler”
> attracts people and dogs more so than small birds. Whenever I’m there I
> try to put some smaller limbs in the water so the little birds will feel
> safer but the water is just moving way too fast and it’s too deep. They
> promptly remove them anyway.
>
> I was never there when it was smaller or when there were native plants but
> I feel like Gaddy Garden is a missed opportunity. I think a little
> education from the birding community for the people who maintain that area
> would be very beneficial if they were open to implementing some of the
> ideas.
>
>
> “A bird does not sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has a
> song.” — Maya Angelou
>
> Lisa Saffell, St. Louis
> @instagram.com/lisasaffell
> @instagram.com/stl_birder
>
> On Oct 15, 2025, at 11:04 PM, Patrick Maloney <
> <maloneypatrick...> wrote:
>
>
> While I have been birding for almost 50 years, lack of mobility and
> eyesight render me still in the neophyte range of the pastime. However, I
> did enjoy birding in Tower Grove Park, especially the Gaddy Garden where
> there were benches to sit at. Now, I have a question. Several years ago,
> the little bubbler was replaced with a larger - and deeper - waterfall and
> a lot of non-native vegetation was removed. Since that time, in my
> non-expert opinion, it seems that the quality of the birding, that is, the
> number and variety of species, seems to be reduced. Is that true? Does
> anyone else notice a decline? As I said, I am not an expert and do not get
> out as much as I once did, but I definitely feel that something has
> changed. Anyone else?
> Pat Maloney
> South St. Louis
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Date: 10/16/25 7:01 am From: Schneider, Daniel <00000496ddbe8980-dmarc-request...> Subject: Re: Gaddy Garden - No Sighting
I frequent Gaddy, almost every weekday morning, and I would agree that it seems to have declined in the past couple of years that I have been regularly visiting. I kind of threw in the towel earlier this week and decided to stomp around Forest Park instead since it’s been so lackluster and I know there should be more action this time of year…I was just commenting about it this morning to another birder at Forest Park that it’s been so poor, I am wondering if it was due to the removal of so much understory earlier this year. I assume it was all done in good faith for removal of non-natives but that’s just a guess. I figured there was a lack of forage compared to previous years, although I’ve wondered if overall bird numbers are just dropping year by year and it’s just becoming visibly noticeable (I really hope that isn’t the case but wouldn’t be surprised).
Still a wonderful spot and we’re lucky to have it in the city but it does seem ‘off’ compared to a few years ago.
Luke S.
Eureka
From: Missouri Wild Bird Forum <MOBIRDS-L...> on behalf of Margy Terpstra <0000049583b18162-dmarc-request...>
Reply-To: Margy Terpstra <ladybirdterp...>
Date: Thursday, October 16, 2025 at 8:40 AM
To: "<MOBIRDS-L...>" <MOBIRDS-L...>
Subject: Re: Gaddy Garden - No Sighting
As a WGNSS member and birder, I was invited to join in the discussions during several meetings in 2015-2016 about the bubbler area. Bill Reininger had become the new park director following John Karel’s retirement. Bill is still the director at the park. Ironically, our first meeting/walk-through was 10/16/2015, exactly ten years ago today.
This topic is water under the bridge, so to speak. The old bubbler was a mound of rocks, with one large fairly flat rock on top with a cistern beneath. City water was piped in and ‘bubbled’ on top, then flowed over the flat rock, filled the cistern and made a little wetland of the area for the plants and birds. The vegetation, some native (copper iris) offered cover for birds and a place for them to forage for insects. The water was turned off for the winter months so the pipes would not freeze. I have photos and could share a link if interested.
As I recall, there were 10-12 of us at those meetings. Other WGNSS members may remember other details. A gift had been given to the park specifically for a new bubbler, and a contractor had been chosen Our input was asked for and given, and the new bubbler was installed in winter of 2016. There is a stone maker that says, “Caroline Loughlin Fountain 2016”.
That’s the history in a nutshell. I don’t know the numbers of birds recorded at the old bubbler vs. the new. I don’t know how long the old bubbler had been in place, not sure I still have notes on all that, but a WGNSS member probably knows and it’s in the archives. The plaque on the old bubbler read, “In memory of Kyrle Boldt, 1904-1991”. So, sometime after 1991, I would think. That plaque is now on a bench in the garden, I believe.
Most of my birding is done here in our sanctuary. Our bubbler had been in operation since 10/21/2000, twenty-five full years in a few days. Birds need moving water wherever they forage, especially in this unseasonably warm and dry year. Consider how you might add a dripper over a bird bath at least to help our beloved birds!
On Oct 16, 2025, at 7:12 AM, Lisa Saffell <lesfstl...> wrote:
I agree Patrick! I think the larger deeper and faster moving “bubbler” attracts people and dogs more so than small birds. Whenever I’m there I try to put some smaller limbs in the water so the little birds will feel safer but the water is just moving way too fast and it’s too deep. They promptly remove them anyway.
I was never there when it was smaller or when there were native plants but I feel like Gaddy Garden is a missed opportunity. I think a little education from the birding community for the people who maintain that area would be very beneficial if they were open to implementing some of the ideas.
“A bird does not sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has a song.” — Maya Angelou
Lisa Saffell, St. Louis
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On Oct 15, 2025, at 11:04 PM, Patrick Maloney <maloneypatrick...> wrote:
While I have been birding for almost 50 years, lack of mobility and eyesight render me still in the neophyte range of the pastime. However, I did enjoy birding in Tower Grove Park, especially the Gaddy Garden where there were benches to sit at. Now, I have a question. Several years ago, the little bubbler was replaced with a larger - and deeper - waterfall and a lot of non-native vegetation was removed. Since that time, in my non-expert opinion, it seems that the quality of the birding, that is, the number and variety of species, seems to be reduced. Is that true? Does anyone else notice a decline? As I said, I am not an expert and do not get out as much as I once did, but I definitely feel that something has changed. Anyone else?
Pat Maloney
South St. Louis
Date: 10/16/25 6:39 am From: Margy Terpstra <0000049583b18162-dmarc-request...> Subject: Re: Gaddy Garden - No Sighting
As a WGNSS member and birder, I was invited to join in the discussions during several meetings in 2015-2016 about the bubbler area. Bill Reininger had become the new park director following John Karel’s retirement. Bill is still the director at the park. Ironically, our first meeting/walk-through was 10/16/2015, exactly ten years ago today.
This topic is water under the bridge, so to speak. The old bubbler was a mound of rocks, with one large fairly flat rock on top with a cistern beneath. City water was piped in and ‘bubbled’ on top, then flowed over the flat rock, filled the cistern and made a little wetland of the area for the plants and birds. The vegetation, some native (copper iris) offered cover for birds and a place for them to forage for insects. The water was turned off for the winter months so the pipes would not freeze. I have photos and could share a link if interested.
As I recall, there were 10-12 of us at those meetings. Other WGNSS members may remember other details. A gift had been given to the park specifically for a new bubbler, and a contractor had been chosen Our input was asked for and given, and the new bubbler was installed in winter of 2016. There is a stone maker that says, “Caroline Loughlin Fountain 2016”.
That’s the history in a nutshell. I don’t know the numbers of birds recorded at the old bubbler vs. the new. I don’t know how long the old bubbler had been in place, not sure I still have notes on all that, but a WGNSS member probably knows and it’s in the archives. The plaque on the old bubbler read, “In memory of Kyrle Boldt, 1904-1991”. So, sometime after 1991, I would think. That plaque is now on a bench in the garden, I believe.
Most of my birding is done here in our sanctuary. Our bubbler had been in operation since 10/21/2000, twenty-five full years in a few days. Birds need moving water wherever they forage, especially in this unseasonably warm and dry year. Consider how you might add a dripper over a bird bath at least to help our beloved birds!
> On Oct 16, 2025, at 7:12 AM, Lisa Saffell <lesfstl...> wrote:
>
> I agree Patrick! I think the larger deeper and faster moving “bubbler” attracts people and dogs more so than small birds. Whenever I’m there I try to put some smaller limbs in the water so the little birds will feel safer but the water is just moving way too fast and it’s too deep. They promptly remove them anyway.
>
> I was never there when it was smaller or when there were native plants but I feel like Gaddy Garden is a missed opportunity. I think a little education from the birding community for the people who maintain that area would be very beneficial if they were open to implementing some of the ideas.
>
>
> “A bird does not sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has a song.” — Maya Angelou
>
> Lisa Saffell, St. Louis
> @instagram.com/lisasaffell
> @instagram.com/stl_birder
>
>> On Oct 15, 2025, at 11:04 PM, Patrick Maloney <maloneypatrick...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> While I have been birding for almost 50 years, lack of mobility and eyesight render me still in the neophyte range of the pastime. However, I did enjoy birding in Tower Grove Park, especially the Gaddy Garden where there were benches to sit at. Now, I have a question. Several years ago, the little bubbler was replaced with a larger - and deeper - waterfall and a lot of non-native vegetation was removed. Since that time, in my non-expert opinion, it seems that the quality of the birding, that is, the number and variety of species, seems to be reduced. Is that true? Does anyone else notice a decline? As I said, I am not an expert and do not get out as much as I once did, but I definitely feel that something has changed. Anyone else?
>> Pat Maloney
>> South St. Louis
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Date: 10/16/25 4:23 am From: David Becher <davidbecher...> Subject: Email to junk
I have what I think I is a solution for Microsoft Outlook. In the menu go to Junk E-mail Options and open it. The third tab is safe senders. Add Missouri Wildbird Forms address to that. It has worked so far.
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Date: 10/15/25 9:04 pm From: Patrick Maloney <maloneypatrick...> Subject: Gaddy Garden - No Sighting
While I have been birding for almost 50 years, lack of mobility and eyesight render me still in the neophyte range of the pastime. However, I did enjoy birding in Tower Grove Park, especially the Gaddy Garden where there were benches to sit at. Now, I have a question. Several years ago, the little bubbler was replaced with a larger - and deeper - waterfall and a lot of non-native vegetation was removed. Since that time, in my non-expert opinion, it seems that the quality of the birding, that is, the number and variety of species, seems to be reduced. Is that true? Does anyone else notice a decline? As I said, I am not an expert and do not get out as much as I once did, but I definitely feel that something has changed. Anyone else?Pat MaloneySouth St. Louis
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Date: 10/15/25 12:45 pm From: William Rowe <rowemb45...> Subject: MBRC POST INCOMPLETE
Please note: My previous post about nominations for MBRC membership was cut off half way through. All MBS members will be receiving the same notice in a separate email, so please be on the lookout for that.
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Date: 10/15/25 9:36 am From: William Rowe <rowemb45...> Subject: 2025 NOMINATION NOTICE, MBRC
Hi, everyone:
This is a nomination notice for a new Missouri Bird Records Committee
member, so let me first review the structure of the MBRC, as revised
in 2018.
1) We have seven voting members at all times, with each new member elected
for a single term of seven years, after which he or she must leave the
Committee for at least one year before being eligible for possible
nomination and election again.
2) The Secretary may be either a voting member or a non-voting member, as
determined by the Committee from time to time. I am currently a non-voting
Secretary.
3) All terms coincide with calendar years, beginning January 1; one
position is vacated as of December 31 each year.
4) Nominations are open for a period in the fall, and then an election is
held for the position that begins Jan. 1.
5) As always, nominations may come to us from both outside and inside the
Committee. The MBRC is a committee of the Missouri Birding Society, but
nominations are welcomed from anyone, whether a member of MBS or not.
Now for this fall's NOMINATION NOTICE for a new member. We are soliciting
nominations by October 31, 2025. Candidates nominated should have the
appropriate qualifications, as stated in the MBRC by-laws: "Qualifications
for Committee membership should include expertise in identification of
birds, knowledge of Missouri birds, familiarity with birders and localities
in Missouri, a commitment to the documentation of bird records, and a
commitment to accomplishing Committee work in a timely fashion."
Anyone who wishes to make a nomination should follow these guidelines: (1)
Nominators may not nominate themselves. (2) A nominator must affirm the
nominee's willingness to serve on the Committee. (3) A nominator should
file the nomination in writing, including a description of the nominee's
qualifications. Please send this material to me at <rowemb45...>
This year, nominations should reach me no later than October 31.
We keep previous nominations on file for future consideration, so
renomination is generally unnecessary, although we do welcome any new
information. We expect to make the selection in November, and the new
member will begin serving on the Committee as of January 1, 2025.
Please write to me with any questions you may have.
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St. Louis
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Date: 10/14/25 4:54 pm From: Anne McCormack <mccormack491...> Subject: WGNSS birding this week Oct 16 and 18
On *Thursday*, Oct. 16, we will meet at the Tremayne Shelter/ Sailboat Cove at Creve Coeur Lake <https://maps.app.goo.gl/zaVH7FS1ET8UYe8fA>. After checking the lake, we will go on to Little Creve Coeur Lake Ecological Area <https://maps.app.goo.gl/5So45pVrgCDWkmSA6> and check out nearby bird reports as well. A good migration is predicted for Wed. night, so we hope some feathered friends will spend some time with us.
On *Saturday*, Oct. 18, we will meet at the Teal Pond parking lot at 8:00, at Wise Rd. and Riverlands Way, just before you get to the Audubon Center at Riverlands <https://maps.app.goo.gl/XFHUCeizWUSN8hmZ6>. We'll have our choice of locations to check out: Riverlands Way, Heron Pond, Orton Rd., Lincoln Shields, or Confluence State Park. See the small attached map.
Date: 10/14/25 8:56 am From: Daniel Getman <000003a484abda6a-dmarc-request...> Subject: Eastern Screech Owl Occupying Nest Box!
We now have an Eastern Screech Owl using one of our nest boxes. It appears to be a Gray Morph Owl. They also exist as a Red Morph.
The box is designed for either an Eastern Screech Owl or an American Kestrel and has a 3 inch hole. It is readily visible from our back patio and is approx 30-40 yds away. It’s in a small opening surrounded by Eastern Red Cedar and a stand of Eastern White Pines - probably perfect for an owl. This is the same nest box that the Great Crested Flycatchers seem to prefer, even though it's larger than their recommended nest box size - location must be everything.
I first had evidence of an owl occupying this box in Feb 2025, when I found 3 owl pellets in the box. This year, I've twice found small feathers, the most recent on Oct 4, 2025.
Today was the 1st time I've actually seen the owl. It was sitting at the nest box hole today at 8:15am. The weather was cool at 62F, cloudy and with little wind from the ENE@ 6 mph.
For some time my Haikubox has been picking up an Eastern Screech Owl call, but it hasn't been the well-known whinny or trill calls.
Anyways, pretty cool. I'll have to watch the box regularly now. Photos can be viewed at: flickr.com/photos/dgetman/sets
In other activity, both yesterday and today, we’ve had lots of Yellow-rumped Warblers flying around the yard, as well as several Red-breasted Nuthatches and for the last couple days, our first Dark-eyed Juncos. Today, a Yellow-bellied Sapsucker visited the yard. We only see them during the fall and winter. The hummingbirds appear to have moved on.
Dan Getman, Kirksville, northeast MO
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Date: 10/13/25 5:21 pm From: Dianne & Steve Kinder <0000041e4c13219a-dmarc-request...> Subject: Re: GRAS Big Sit
It was, and you can see the toaol list of species and numbers on Terry's ebird list for that day.Steve <Kinderdmkinder...>
On Monday, October 13, 2025 at 07:26:30 AM PDT, Marge Lumpe <margelumpe...> wrote:
What a great day!!
On Sun, Oct 12, 2025 at 10:40 PM Terry McNeely <terrymcneely...> wrote:
GRAS held it's 29th annual Big Sit at Swan Lake NWR, five members participated as well as 2 visitors. Starting at 5:30 am listening to all the sounds of the marsh and owls. By sunrise we had tallied 24 species with a goal of as many species as possible. By noon we were enjoying grilled brats and food that all participants had brought. By this time we had observed 59 species. We were treated to a hawk watch with 10 species of raptors. As well 241 Turkey Vultures that were counted in multiple kettles of 25 - 70. At 6:30 pm with light starting to fade and a total of 68, a determined trio hoped for 70 species. All at once a lone Mourning Dove flew by. Now 69 and hope fading with the light, from the reeds towards the observation tower flew in # 70, an American Bittern, what a way to end a long day.
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Date: 10/12/25 8:40 pm From: Terry McNeely <terrymcneely...> Subject: GRAS Big Sit
GRAS held it's 29th annual Big Sit at Swan Lake NWR, five members participated as well as 2 visitors.
Starting at 5:30 am listening to all the sounds of the marsh and owls. By sunrise we had tallied 24 species with a goal of as many species as possible. By noon we were enjoying grilled brats and food that all participants had brought. By this time we had observed 59 species. We were treated to a hawk watch with 10 species of raptors. As well 241 Turkey Vultures that were counted in multiple kettles of 25 - 70.
At 6:30 pm with light starting to fade and a total of 68, a determined trio hoped for 70 species. All at once a lone Mourning Dove flew by. Now 69 and hope fading with the light, from the reeds towards the observation tower flew in # 70, an American Bittern, what a way to end a long day.
Terry McNeely
25843 Grate Ave
Jameson MO
Daviess County
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Date: 10/12/25 7:02 am From: Edge Wade <1edgewade...> Subject: Big Sit at Swan Lake NWR
I was privileged to be among the group of 8 who participated in the 29th annual Big Sit hosted by Grand River Audubon Society.
This is the oldest (begun at the suggestion of Doris Fitchett) Big Sit in Missouri. Once again, brats were supplied and served up by Terry McNeely. Other participants brought a variety of food, and everyone was observed lining up for seconds. I ate my annual brat and had 1/2 more for each of two former Big Sit regulars now living too distant to attend.
I got off to a late start, then was delayed an hour by ineptly handled traffic for the MU football game. My time at the tower and immediate vicinity was in beautiful weather, surrounded by birding acquaintances I see too infrequently, and entertained by a good variety of birds. The drive out past Silver Lake was worth the trip on its own.
At the tower we discussed past birding sessions and sightings there and passed tower birders, along with surmising why one lone pelican did not move from its place, though occasionally joined by one or two more.
We didn't solve any of the world's woes, but left feeling that all really is well with the world when we can share days like this.
Next year, give your psyche a boost and make the trek to Swan Lake NWR for a memorable day.
Edge Wade Columbia, MO <1edgewade...>
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Date: 10/11/25 6:45 am From: Daniel Getman <000003a484abda6a-dmarc-request...> Subject: Large Movement of Migrants
We just had a very large flock come through our yard, feeding in the river birch for about a half hour - I’ll have to go through my photos, but certainly Yelliw-rumped Warblers, Ruby-crowned Kinglets and Northern Parula, maybe other kinds as well. Last night around 6:15pm, we had a lone female Summer Tanager briefly stop in the yard.
This morning, temperatures were a chilly mid-40s F and it seemed the migrants didn’t come through until it had warmed a little.
Birdcast reported 5.3 million birds passed over Adair County last night.
Looks like a good day to check your favorite spots.
Dan Getman, Kirksville, northeast MO
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Date: 10/10/25 3:02 pm From: Bill Eddleman <eddlemanw48...> Subject: Re: No sighting Question Bald Eagle Behavior
Because about half the plant and animal images I see on social media are
AI, enhanced, or fake, it’s likely bogus. Also, too many people accept them
all at face value. Keep on being skeptical!
——Bill Eddleman, Cape Girardeau
On Fri, Oct 10, 2025 at 1:51 PM Patrick Maloney <
<maloneypatrick...> wrote:
Date: 10/10/25 1:13 pm From: Ryan Steffens <ryanthenaturelover...> Subject: Re: No sighting Question Bald Eagle Behavior
The photo is from the SATIRICAL Facebook page "Branson Area Breaking News" and the page description even says they are a "world renowned satirical news organization..."
While a flock of bald eagles may be a possible true sighting in certain areas (fishing boats, lakes, rivers, etc.), that particular picture is fake. A few years ago there were over 100 bald eagles at Springfork Lake (Pettis County MO) and we got them on a CBC, which was of course a high count for us!
Ryan Steffens Benton County, MO
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Date: 10/10/25 11:51 am From: Patrick Maloney <maloneypatrick...> Subject: No sighting Question Bald Eagle Behavior
I received a picture of a flock of Bald Eagles on Hiway 76 in Branson. Clipping said hundreds perched on the road, cars, and even wires. Looks to me toi be AI generated, and I have never seen an eagle perch on a wire. Anyone heard of this or seen similar behavior?
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Date: 10/9/25 11:48 am From: Mary Dueren <mary.dueren...> Subject: FOS-White Throated Sparrow and YB Sapsuckers
Yesterday morning, Karen Meyer and I headed to upper Creve Coeur Park to see if the big wave predicted by Birdcast brought in some good birds. We clearly heard three times the "Oh Canada-Canada-Canada" call from a WTSP. We didn't locate the individual bird doing the call but we did find two Yellow-bellied Sapsuckers fussing in the trees. The area we saw and heard these species was very close to the intersection of Marine and Dorsett Roads. Mary Dueren St. Louis County
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Date: 10/7/25 7:08 pm From: Terry McNeely <terrymcneely...> Subject: GRAS Big Sit
Grand River Audubon will be hosting our 29th annual Big Sit Saturday October 11. We will be sitting at the observation tower at Swan Lake NWR. Some sitters will be there pre dawn and stay until the light fades. There are no bathroom facilities available, Cooney's General Store will be open.
We welcome all visitors, Chairs and scopes will be shared.
Hope to see you there.
Terry McNeely
25843 Grate Ave
Jameson, MO 64647
Daviess County
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Date: 10/7/25 5:46 pm From: Anne McCormack <mccormack491...> Subject: WGNSS birding this week Oct. 9&11
Be on the lookout because a big migration is predicted for our area Tuesday night. We hope those birds will stick around for the week! On *Thursday*, Oct. 9, we will meet at the headquarters at Horseshoe Lake State Park <https://maps.app.goo.gl/6KBQi9pvT1hDkPAg7> in Illinois at 8:00 AM. We'll check out the lake, as well as the fields and trail on Walker Island for sparrows and maybe some migrants. Depending on the birds, we may go on to the 203 side of the lake on Bend Road <https://maps.app.goo.gl/h9eZyvwzbgAyFLgo9>.
On *Saturday*, Oct. 11, we will meet at the Busch Greenway, Duckett Creek Trail <https://maps.app.goo.gl/LB1vgbNDHGrNQmdo6>. The trail winds along a creek through woods till it joins the Katy Trail in 1.5 miles. We'll return to the parking lot and drive to the nearby Missouri Bluffs Park <https://maps.app.goo.gl/7koDNnHpLh7c9EAB6>. They have a nice shelter there and bathroom--bring lunch if you wish!
Seriously, both days are expected to be resort weather, but as always, be prepared for some St. Louis-style changes. Water and bug spray, of course.
Date: 10/7/25 5:45 pm From: Anne McCormack <mccormack491...> Subject: WGNSS birding this week Oct. 9 and 11
Be on the lookout because a big migration is predicted for our area Tuesday night. We hope those birds will stick around for the week! On *Thursday*, Oct. 9, we will meet at the headquarters at Horseshoe Lake State Park <https://maps.app.goo.gl/6KBQi9pvT1hDkPAg7> in Illinois at 8:00 AM. We'll check out the lake, as well as the fields and trail on Walker Island for sparrows and maybe some migrants. Depending on the birds, we may go on to the 203 side of the lake on Bend Road <https://maps.app.goo.gl/h9eZyvwzbgAyFLgo9>.
On *Saturday*, Oct. 11, we will meet at the Busch Greenway, Duckett Creek Trail <https://maps.app.goo.gl/LB1vgbNDHGrNQmdo6>. The trail winds along a creek through woods till it joins the Katy Trail in 1.5 miles. We'll return to the parking lot and drive to the nearby Missouri Bluffs Park <https://maps.app.goo.gl/7koDNnHpLh7c9EAB6>. They have a nice shelter there and bathroom--bring lunch if you wish!
Seriously, both days are expected to be resort weather, but as always, be prepared for some St. Louis-style changes. Water and bug spray, of course.
Date: 10/3/25 10:11 pm From: Mary Nemecek <0000033e56bb8a8d-dmarc-request...> Subject: No Sighting- Limpkin presentation
For anyone interested, Marky and I will be presenting the findings in our recent article on Limpkin Vagrancy during the Burroughs Audubon Society Meeting on Monday, October 20th. Meeting will begin at 6:30 and the program usually starts about 15-20minutes later. Program is open to all- you do not need to be a member of Burroughs to attend.
Participate via ZOOM. Click on the link to register in advance. After registering, you'll receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the meeting. https://us06web.zoom.us/.../reg.../aTXSDK5AQFGWEETcIM1lcw...If you would like to read the paper, Wilson's Journal of Ornithology has graciously given free access to the article for the next 6 months. https://doi.org/10.1080/15594491.2025.2529110 Mary NemecekKCMO
"One planet, one experiment." -Edward O. Wilson
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Date: 10/3/25 10:17 am From: Geoff Anderson <00000467f350d251-dmarc-request...> Subject: Re: Winter Finch Forecast 2025-26
I saw 2 RBNU this morning picking seeds from white pines and stashing them in the dead branches of surrounding trees. One got VERY close to me, so im excited and hopeful they hang out this winter. I may have heard a 3rd one as well.
Oh, this is south county St Louis.
On Friday, October 3, 2025 at 08:12:02 AM CDT, Daniel Getman <000003a484abda6a-dmarc-request...> wrote:
I just came across this year’s Winter Finch Forecast, dated Sept 28. Based on poor cone crops in the boreal forests, they think this could be a big irruption year. They are already seeing irruptions of Red-breasted Nuthatches and Purple Finches. Much of the report focuses on Ontario, the eastern US and the Great Lakes region, but some reference is made further west.
Many of the species will visit feeders with nyjer and black sunflower seeds.
If any of you more experienced birders have a perspective, please share.
Date: 10/3/25 6:12 am From: Daniel Getman <000003a484abda6a-dmarc-request...> Subject: Winter Finch Forecast 2025-26
I just came across this year’s Winter Finch Forecast, dated Sept 28. Based on poor cone crops in the boreal forests, they think this could be a big irruption year. They are already seeing irruptions of Red-breasted Nuthatches and Purple Finches. Much of the report focuses on Ontario, the eastern US and the Great Lakes region, but some reference is made further west.
Many of the species will visit feeders with nyjer and black sunflower seeds.
If any of you more experienced birders have a perspective, please share.
Date: 10/2/25 3:20 pm From: Daniel Getman <000003a484abda6a-dmarc-request...> Subject: Warblers trickling through
To my surprise, this morning we had quite a bit of migrant activity, despite Birdcast saying only 6,000 migrants flew overhead.
We had several small flocks of migrants (3-5 at a time) come through the yard, feeding in our river birch tree. They appeared to be mostly Northern Parulas, providing for lots of photo opportunities.
There was also a beautiful Black-throated Green Warbler that provided clear, close views - always a joy!
We’ve continue to regularly have multiple Red-breasted Nuthatches and varying-sized flocks of Cedar Waxwings.
Yesterday, we had a single Black-throated Green Warbler and a Yellow-rumped Warbler, both feeding in the red cedars.
Photos can be viewed at:
flickr.com/photos/dgetman/sets
Dan Getman, Kirksville, northeast MO
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Date: 10/1/25 4:33 pm From: Cindy Bridges <00000329cd04b585-dmarc-request...> Subject: Red breasted Nuthatch/ Oregon county
Unexpected visitor down here in Oregon county. I don’t often see them especially this time of year. It landed on deck railing outside home office. Continuing on feeder eating sunflower seeds.
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Date: 10/1/25 6:52 am From: Jennifer Pederson <jenniferpederson631...> Subject: Re: continuing problems with messages going to spam
Terrell's steps below worked perfectly on my gmail account. I also like the
blue and white labels. No more mobirds spam!
Thank you Terrell!
Jennifer Pederson
Kearney, MO
On Fri, Sep 26, 2025 at 9:52 AM William Terrell Stamps <stampst...>
wrote:
> This is a work-around that has worked for me if using Gmail:
>
> (1) Click on any email message from MOBIRDS to open it (Doesn't have to be
> one of the "spam" emails)
> (2) from the list of icons above the email, click on the 3 vertical dots
> (3) Select "Filter messages like these"
> (4) Delete whatever email is in the "From" section and leave it blank <--
> THIS STEP IS IMPORTANT!
> (5) In the "Has the words" section, add <MOBIRDS-L...>
> (6) Click on the "create filter" button
> (7) on the next page, select "Never send it to spam"
> (8) also select the last box- "Apply filter to "x" matching conversations.
> The number "x" will vary depending on how many messages you have from
> MOBIRDS
> (9) I also suggest selecting "Apply a label" and creating a "MOBIRDS"
> label so that all future MOBIRDS emails will be automatically labeled as
> such
> (10) When back in your inbox, look at your list of labels on the left-hand
> side of the screen, click the 3 dots by the MOBIRDS label and select a
> bright color (I use white text on a blue background). This makes it easy to
> spot all the MOBIRDS emails.
>
> Make sure you do #4 above when setting this up
>
> It is an inelegant solution, but seems to work, and you will still get
> annoying grey box messages because Gmail really, really wants to send these
> emails to spam. The message states: "This message was not sent to spam
> because of a filter you created" and gives you the opportunity to click on
> a "Report not spam" button (which, unfortunately, you will have to do for
> every individual person's email that Gmail considers spam). But the emails
> will remain in your inbox, not the spam folder.
>
> The reason this works is that while the email messages are technically
> coming from a person's individual email address, they are actually routed
> through the listserve, so creating filters that have the person's email in
> the "From" section only applies to that particular person. The
> <MOBIRDS-L...> is always somewhere in the emails, so the
> filter catches everything. This filter will also catch any email that has
> the listserve address in it even if it doesn't come from MOBIRDS, but I
> think that would be rare.
>
> Terrell
>
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Date: 10/1/25 6:14 am From: Zita Robertson <robertsonzita...> Subject: No sighting – question about university studies
Hello everyone,
This is Zita Robertson, I'm a young birder from Northeast MO. I'm currently a junior, enrolled in a school in Hungary, and I'm homeschooled here. I have been researching my options for continuing at university in the US, Canada or Europe, ideally studying something along the lines of ecology/evolutionary biology. I would really appreciate any suggestions you all may have as to where to continue searching!
Thank you so much, and happy birding!
Zita Robertson Canton, MO
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Date: 9/30/25 6:04 pm From: Anne McCormack <mccormack491...> Subject: WGNSS Birding Oct. 2 and 4
On *Thursday*, Oct. 2, we will meet at 8:00 in the parking lot across from the Visitor Center <https://maps.app.goo.gl/UVGtb9dBQj1TcTCy6> in *Forest Park*. We'll meet in the *southeast corner* of that lot, then walk toward the statue of Franz Sigel and take the path to Deer Lake. Map of Forest Park <https://www.forestparkmap.org/>, map of statues in Forest Park <https://www.forestparkstatues.org/map>. Bring lunch if you wish. On *Saturday*, Oct. 4, we will meet at 8:00 am at the Teal Pond parking lot, at Wise Rd. and Riverlands Way, just before you get to the Audubon Center at Riverlands <https://maps.app.goo.gl/XFHUCeizWUSN8hmZ6>.
Date: 9/29/25 9:25 am From: A John Solodar <0000045560947884-dmarc-request...> Subject: Re: continuing problems with messages going to spam
David
I am using an iMac computer and have a yahoo email address. I used to have spam problems from MoBirds, but have not had any for months now.
John
A John Solodar
<ajsolodar...>
The older I get the better I was.
> On Sep 29, 2025, at 10:50 AM, David Scheu <00000454f801cafe-dmarc-request...> wrote:
>
> Thank you William! I am glad to hear reports that this fix is working for gmail. I know this is a problem for many people, so I’d be grateful if anyone using an email service other than gmail has found a solution that works for them, would please share it here.
>
> Dave Scheu
> MOBirds-L list co-owner
> St. Louis, MO
>
>
>
> From: Missouri Wild Bird Forum <MOBIRDS-L...> <mailto:<MOBIRDS-L...>> On Behalf Of John and Linda Frederick
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 8:11 PM
> To: <MOBIRDS-L...> <mailto:<MOBIRDS-L...> > Subject: Re: continuing problems with messages going to spam
>
> I followed those steps as well and messages have come through to my in box.
>
> I will add that I couldn't do this from my (Android) phone, but instead had to go to our laptop. The "create filter" option wasn't available on my phone.
>
> Linda Frederick
> Rolla MO
>
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2025, 8:02 PM Jean L <jaleonatti...> <mailto:<jaleonatti...>> wrote:
> I followed that procedure. Have been waiting for someone to send a MoBirds message - voila', Steve's message came to my inbox!!!
>
>
> Jean Leonatti
> <jaleonatti...> <mailto:<jaleonatti...> >
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2025, 7:57 PM Dianne & Steve Kinder <0000041e4c13219a-dmarc-request...> <mailto:<0000041e4c13219a-dmarc-request...>> wrote:
> WOW! Should we all really have to go through all that??
>
> Steve Kinder
> <dmkinder...> <mailto:<dmkinder...> >
> On Friday, September 26, 2025 at 09:52:03 AM CDT, William Terrell Stamps <stampst...> <mailto:<stampst...>> wrote:
>
>
> This is a work-around that has worked for me if using Gmail:
>
> (1) Click on any email message from MOBIRDS to open it (Doesn't have to be one of the "spam" emails)
> (2) from the list of icons above the email, click on the 3 vertical dots
> (3) Select "Filter messages like these"
> (4) Delete whatever email is in the "From" section and leave it blank <-- THIS STEP IS IMPORTANT!
> (5) In the "Has the words" section, add <MOBIRDS-L...> <mailto:<MOBIRDS-L...> > (6) Click on the "create filter" button
> (7) on the next page, select "Never send it to spam"
> (8) also select the last box- "Apply filter to "x" matching conversations. The number "x" will vary depending on how many messages you have from MOBIRDS
> (9) I also suggest selecting "Apply a label" and creating a "MOBIRDS" label so that all future MOBIRDS emails will be automatically labeled as such
> (10) When back in your inbox, look at your list of labels on the left-hand side of the screen, click the 3 dots by the MOBIRDS label and select a bright color (I use white text on a blue background). This makes it easy to spot all the MOBIRDS emails.
>
> Make sure you do #4 above when setting this up
>
> It is an inelegant solution, but seems to work, and you will still get annoying grey box messages because Gmail really, really wants to send these emails to spam. The message states: "This message was not sent to spam because of a filter you created" and gives you the opportunity to click on a "Report not spam" button (which, unfortunately, you will have to do for every individual person's email that Gmail considers spam). But the emails will remain in your inbox, not the spam folder.
>
> The reason this works is that while the email messages are technically coming from a person's individual email address, they are actually routed through the listserve, so creating filters that have the person's email in the "From" section only applies to that particular person. The <MOBIRDS-L...> <mailto:<MOBIRDS-L...> is always somewhere in the emails, so the filter catches everything. This filter will also catch any email that has the listserve address in it even if it doesn't come from MOBIRDS, but I think that would be rare.
>
> Terrell
>
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Date: 9/29/25 8:50 am From: David Scheu <00000454f801cafe-dmarc-request...> Subject: Re: continuing problems with messages going to spam
Thank you William! I am glad to hear reports that this fix is working for gmail. I know this is a problem for many people, so I’d be grateful if anyone using an email service other than gmail has found a solution that works for them, would please share it here.
Dave Scheu
MOBirds-L list co-owner
St. Louis, MO
From: Missouri Wild Bird Forum <MOBIRDS-L...> On Behalf Of John and Linda Frederick
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 8:11 PM
To: <MOBIRDS-L...>
Subject: Re: continuing problems with messages going to spam
I followed those steps as well and messages have come through to my in box.
I will add that I couldn't do this from my (Android) phone, but instead had to go to our laptop. The "create filter" option wasn't available on my phone.
Linda Frederick
Rolla MO
On Fri, Sep 26, 2025, 8:02 PM Jean L <jaleonatti...><mailto:<jaleonatti...>> wrote:
I followed that procedure. Have been waiting for someone to send a MoBirds message - voila', Steve's message came to my inbox!!!
On Fri, Sep 26, 2025, 7:57 PM Dianne & Steve Kinder <0000041e4c13219a-dmarc-request...><mailto:<0000041e4c13219a-dmarc-request...>> wrote:
WOW! Should we all really have to go through all that??
On Friday, September 26, 2025 at 09:52:03 AM CDT, William Terrell Stamps <stampst...><mailto:<stampst...>> wrote:
This is a work-around that has worked for me if using Gmail:
(1) Click on any email message from MOBIRDS to open it (Doesn't have to be one of the "spam" emails)
(2) from the list of icons above the email, click on the 3 vertical dots
(3) Select "Filter messages like these"
(4) Delete whatever email is in the "From" section and leave it blank <-- THIS STEP IS IMPORTANT!
(5) In the "Has the words" section, add <MOBIRDS-L...><mailto:<MOBIRDS-L...> (6) Click on the "create filter" button
(7) on the next page, select "Never send it to spam"
(8) also select the last box- "Apply filter to "x" matching conversations. The number "x" will vary depending on how many messages you have from MOBIRDS
(9) I also suggest selecting "Apply a label" and creating a "MOBIRDS" label so that all future MOBIRDS emails will be automatically labeled as such
(10) When back in your inbox, look at your list of labels on the left-hand side of the screen, click the 3 dots by the MOBIRDS label and select a bright color (I use white text on a blue background). This makes it easy to spot all the MOBIRDS emails.
Make sure you do #4 above when setting this up
It is an inelegant solution, but seems to work, and you will still get annoying grey box messages because Gmail really, really wants to send these emails to spam. The message states: "This message was not sent to spam because of a filter you created" and gives you the opportunity to click on a "Report not spam" button (which, unfortunately, you will have to do for every individual person's email that Gmail considers spam). But the emails will remain in your inbox, not the spam folder.
The reason this works is that while the email messages are technically coming from a person's individual email address, they are actually routed through the listserve, so creating filters that have the person's email in the "From" section only applies to that particular person. The <MOBIRDS-L...><mailto:<MOBIRDS-L...> is always somewhere in the emails, so the filter catches everything. This filter will also catch any email that has the listserve address in it even if it doesn't come from MOBIRDS, but I think that would be rare.
Terrell
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Edge is correct. No more birds in the Spam filter.
I'm on a computer and use a mouse, but the "fix" took about 4 clicks, one
backspace, and 30 seconds. Not really a hardship. ;-)
Heidi McCullough
Parkville, Platte County, in the bluffs where the redheads are back for the
acorns this winter
On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 12:21 PM Edge Wade <1edgewade...> wrote:
> The message I just sent is the first I have sent to Mobirds for months
> that didn't go to my spam box.
> THANK YOU, TERRELL.
>
> And to anyone who is offended by the all caps... tough...I am shouting in
> joy.
>
> Edge Wade
> Columbia, MO
> <1edgewade...>
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Date: 9/28/25 10:18 am From: Edge Wade <1edgewade...> Subject: Crossing fingers that Terrell's method works
With my ADD I have difficulty going beyond 3 steps, but Terrell's step-by-step, printed out so I could read it as I looked for the bloomin' 3 dots, etc., only took about 8 minutes for me--the time would be much shorter for "normal" people...are there really any "normal" people?
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Date: 9/27/25 5:09 pm From: John and Linda Frederick <frederickjohnandlinda...> Subject: Migration
What a difference a day makes! Last Thursday several Sedge Wrens and Marsh Wrens were present at Audubon Trails in Rolla. They must have left overnight, because another birder who was there on Thursday went back on Friday and found none. And today, Saturday we didn't see any of either of them. Such are the rapid changes during migration. You just hope you can be in the right place at the right time.
My husband and I have a male Black- throated Green hanging around yard. Beautiful bird.
Linda Frederick Rolla MO
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I just got back from 3 days at Hawk Ridge in Duluth, MN for the annual hawk migration.
This is always a fun trip - a chance to see a lot of different hawks, talk to people from all over the place and try to get some nice photos, which is challenging to say the least. I’ve always looked at the reported hawk counts and thought “wow, what a great chance to get nice photos”. But having gone for several years to Hawk Ridge and several other hawk sites around the country, you quickly learn how difficult it is. Many of the raptors are either far out in the distance, high up on the thermals, flying by quickly with little warning, or facing into the sun. So you do your best, take a bunch of photos and hope for the best. I’m usually disappointed at the quality. But the 3 days are lots of fun and I highly recommend a trip sometime.
Although they reported 6,000 Broad-winged Hawks in Sept 19th, which may have been some seen recently at Eagle Bluffs, they still haven’t reported their big typical push of >15,000. So keep your eyes out for more!
The first morning was very foggy, so I went to the nearby Canal Point Park. There were lots of warblers and migrants, and a very cooperative Merlin, which was very special.
I also attended an Owl Banding session one night from 7:30-9:00pm. They caught, banded and released an Eastern Whip-poor-will (which was a special and unique treat for them) and 5-6 Northern Saw-whet Owls. It was pretty cool to watch them handle, band, sample and release these little beauties. The banders are highly trained in their craft! They said some of their banded Saw-whet Owls get recaught by our own Missouri River Bird Observatory.
On the way back home, I stopped at Crex Meadows Wildlife Area near Grantsburg, WI. It’s about a 7 hr drive from Kirksville. It’s a very large, beautiful area and worth a visit. It’s a major staging area for > 10,000 Sandhill Cranes in October and lots of ducks. This time of year there were quite a few Sandhill Cranes and Trumpeter Swans. I never get tired of either of them!
Photos from the trip can be viewed at:
flickr.com/photos/dgetman/sets
Besides the raptor photos, the photos of the Whip-poor-will and Saw-Whet Owl are pretty special.
Dan Getman, Kirksville, northeast MO
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Date: 9/26/25 6:11 pm From: John and Linda Frederick <frederickjohnandlinda...> Subject: Re: continuing problems with messages going to spam
I followed those steps as well and messages have come through to my in box.
I will add that I couldn't do this from my (Android) phone, but instead had
to go to our laptop. The "create filter" option wasn't available on
my phone.
Linda Frederick
Rolla MO
On Fri, Sep 26, 2025, 8:02 PM Jean L <jaleonatti...> wrote:
> I followed that procedure. Have been waiting for someone to send a MoBirds
> message - voila', Steve's message came to my inbox!!!
>
>
> Jean Leonatti
> <jaleonatti...>
>
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2025, 7:57 PM Dianne & Steve Kinder <
> <0000041e4c13219a-dmarc-request...> wrote:
>
>> WOW! Should we all really have to go through all that??
>>
>> Steve Kinder
>> <dmkinder...>
>>
>> On Friday, September 26, 2025 at 09:52:03 AM CDT, William Terrell Stamps <
>> <stampst...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> This is a work-around that has worked for me if using Gmail:
>>
>> (1) Click on any email message from MOBIRDS to open it (Doesn't have to
>> be one of the "spam" emails)
>> (2) from the list of icons above the email, click on the 3 vertical dots
>> (3) Select "Filter messages like these"
>> (4) Delete whatever email is in the "From" section and leave it blank <--
>> THIS STEP IS IMPORTANT!
>> (5) In the "Has the words" section, add <MOBIRDS-L...>
>> (6) Click on the "create filter" button
>> (7) on the next page, select "Never send it to spam"
>> (8) also select the last box- "Apply filter to "x" matching
>> conversations. The number "x" will vary depending on how many messages you
>> have from MOBIRDS
>> (9) I also suggest selecting "Apply a label" and creating a "MOBIRDS"
>> label so that all future MOBIRDS emails will be automatically labeled as
>> such
>> (10) When back in your inbox, look at your list of labels on the
>> left-hand side of the screen, click the 3 dots by the MOBIRDS label and
>> select a bright color (I use white text on a blue background). This makes
>> it easy to spot all the MOBIRDS emails.
>>
>> Make sure you do #4 above when setting this up
>>
>> It is an inelegant solution, but seems to work, and you will still get
>> annoying grey box messages because Gmail really, really wants to send these
>> emails to spam. The message states: "This message was not sent to spam
>> because of a filter you created" and gives you the opportunity to click on
>> a "Report not spam" button (which, unfortunately, you will have to do for
>> every individual person's email that Gmail considers spam). But the emails
>> will remain in your inbox, not the spam folder.
>>
>> The reason this works is that while the email messages are technically
>> coming from a person's individual email address, they are actually routed
>> through the listserve, so creating filters that have the person's email in
>> the "From" section only applies to that particular person. The
>> <MOBIRDS-L...> is always somewhere in the emails, so the
>> filter catches everything. This filter will also catch any email that has
>> the listserve address in it even if it doesn't come from MOBIRDS, but I
>> think that would be rare.
>>
>> Terrell
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Date: 9/26/25 6:02 pm From: Jean L <jaleonatti...> Subject: Re: continuing problems with messages going to spam
I followed that procedure. Have been waiting for someone to send a MoBirds message - voila', Steve's message came to my inbox!!!
Jean Leonatti <jaleonatti...>
On Fri, Sep 26, 2025, 7:57 PM Dianne & Steve Kinder < <0000041e4c13219a-dmarc-request...> wrote:
> WOW! Should we all really have to go through all that?? > > Steve Kinder > <dmkinder...> > > On Friday, September 26, 2025 at 09:52:03 AM CDT, William Terrell Stamps < > <stampst...> wrote: > > > This is a work-around that has worked for me if using Gmail: > > (1) Click on any email message from MOBIRDS to open it (Doesn't have to be > one of the "spam" emails) > (2) from the list of icons above the email, click on the 3 vertical dots > (3) Select "Filter messages like these" > (4) Delete whatever email is in the "From" section and leave it blank <-- > THIS STEP IS IMPORTANT! > (5) In the "Has the words" section, add <MOBIRDS-L...> > (6) Click on the "create filter" button > (7) on the next page, select "Never send it to spam" > (8) also select the last box- "Apply filter to "x" matching conversations. > The number "x" will vary depending on how many messages you have from > MOBIRDS > (9) I also suggest selecting "Apply a label" and creating a "MOBIRDS" > label so that all future MOBIRDS emails will be automatically labeled as > such > (10) When back in your inbox, look at your list of labels on the left-hand > side of the screen, click the 3 dots by the MOBIRDS label and select a > bright color (I use white text on a blue background). This makes it easy to > spot all the MOBIRDS emails. > > Make sure you do #4 above when setting this up > > It is an inelegant solution, but seems to work, and you will still get > annoying grey box messages because Gmail really, really wants to send these > emails to spam. The message states: "This message was not sent to spam > because of a filter you created" and gives you the opportunity to click on > a "Report not spam" button (which, unfortunately, you will have to do for > every individual person's email that Gmail considers spam). But the emails > will remain in your inbox, not the spam folder. > > The reason this works is that while the email messages are technically > coming from a person's individual email address, they are actually routed > through the listserve, so creating filters that have the person's email in > the "From" section only applies to that particular person. The > <MOBIRDS-L...> is always somewhere in the emails, so the > filter catches everything. This filter will also catch any email that has > the listserve address in it even if it doesn't come from MOBIRDS, but I > think that would be rare. > > Terrell > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The Missouri Birding Society's Wild Bird Discussion Forum > > List archives: https://po.missouri.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A0=MOBIRDS-L > MBS Website: http://mobirds.org/ > Questions or comments? Email the list owners: mailto: > <mobirds-l-request...> > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://po.missouri.edu/SCRIPTS/wa.exe/wa?SUBED1=mobirds-l&A=1 > ABA Birding Code of Ethics: http://www.aba.org/about/ethics.html > > MBS Fall Meeting: September 19-21. Springfield Hilton Garden Inn > Details and registration: https://mobirds.org/MBS/NextMeeting.aspx > > ------------------------------ > *The Missouri Birding Society's Wild Bird Discussion Forum* > Archives <https://po.missouri.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A0=MOBIRDS-L> / Subscription > options <https://po.missouri.edu/SCRIPTS/wa.exe/wa?SUBED1=mobirds-l&A=1> > / MBS Website <http://mobirds.org> / Email the list owners > <mobirds-l-request...> > > ABA Birding Code of Ethics <http://www.aba.org/about/ethics.html> > > MBS Fall Meeting: September 19-21. Springfield Hilton Garden Inn >
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Date: 9/26/25 5:57 pm From: Dianne & Steve Kinder <0000041e4c13219a-dmarc-request...> Subject: Re: continuing problems with messages going to spam
WOW! Should we all really have to go through all that??
Steve <Kinderdmkinder...>
On Friday, September 26, 2025 at 09:52:03 AM CDT, William Terrell Stamps <stampst...> wrote:
This is a work-around that has worked for me if using Gmail:
(1) Click on any email message from MOBIRDS to open it (Doesn't have to be one of the "spam" emails)
(2) from the list of icons above the email, click on the 3 vertical dots
(3) Select "Filter messages like these"
(4) Delete whatever email is in the "From" section and leave it blank <-- THIS STEP IS IMPORTANT!
(5) In the "Has the words" section, add <MOBIRDS-L...>
(6) Click on the "create filter" button
(7) on the next page, select "Never send it to spam"
(8) also select the last box- "Apply filter to "x" matching conversations. The number "x" will vary depending on how many messages you have from MOBIRDS
(9) I also suggest selecting "Apply a label" and creating a "MOBIRDS" label so that all future MOBIRDS emails will be automatically labeled as such
(10) When back in your inbox, look at your list of labels on the left-hand side of the screen, click the 3 dots by the MOBIRDS label and select a bright color (I use white text on a blue background). This makes it easy to spot all the MOBIRDS emails.
Make sure you do #4 above when setting this up
It is an inelegant solution, but seems to work, and you will still get annoying grey box messages because Gmail really, really wants to send these emails to spam. The message states: "This message was not sent to spam because of a filter you created" and gives you the opportunity to click on a "Report not spam" button (which, unfortunately, you will have to do for every individual person's email that Gmail considers spam). But the emails will remain in your inbox, not the spam folder.
The reason this works is that while the email messages are technically coming from a person's individual email address, they are actually routed through the listserve, so creating filters that have the person's email in the "From" section only applies to that particular person. The <MOBIRDS-L...> is always somewhere in the emails, so the filter catches everything. This filter will also catch any email that has the listserve address in it even if it doesn't come from MOBIRDS, but I think that would be rare.
Terrell
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Date: 9/26/25 7:52 am From: William Terrell Stamps <stampst...> Subject: Re: continuing problems with messages going to spam
This is a work-around that has worked for me if using Gmail:
(1) Click on any email message from MOBIRDS to open it (Doesn't have to be one of the "spam" emails)
(2) from the list of icons above the email, click on the 3 vertical dots
(3) Select "Filter messages like these"
(4) Delete whatever email is in the "From" section and leave it blank <-- THIS STEP IS IMPORTANT!
(5) In the "Has the words" section, add <MOBIRDS-L...>
(6) Click on the "create filter" button
(7) on the next page, select "Never send it to spam"
(8) also select the last box- "Apply filter to "x" matching conversations. The number "x" will vary depending on how many messages you have from MOBIRDS
(9) I also suggest selecting "Apply a label" and creating a "MOBIRDS" label so that all future MOBIRDS emails will be automatically labeled as such
(10) When back in your inbox, look at your list of labels on the left-hand side of the screen, click the 3 dots by the MOBIRDS label and select a bright color (I use white text on a blue background). This makes it easy to spot all the MOBIRDS emails.
Make sure you do #4 above when setting this up
It is an inelegant solution, but seems to work, and you will still get annoying grey box messages because Gmail really, really wants to send these emails to spam. The message states: "This message was not sent to spam because of a filter you created" and gives you the opportunity to click on a "Report not spam" button (which, unfortunately, you will have to do for every individual person's email that Gmail considers spam). But the emails will remain in your inbox, not the spam folder.
The reason this works is that while the email messages are technically coming from a person's individual email address, they are actually routed through the listserve, so creating filters that have the person's email in the "From" section only applies to that particular person. The <MOBIRDS-L...> is always somewhere in the emails, so the filter catches everything. This filter will also catch any email that has the listserve address in it even if it doesn't come from MOBIRDS, but I think that would be rare.
Terrell
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Date: 9/25/25 7:22 pm From: N Rock <4rockbird...> Subject: Re: continuing problems with messages going to spam
Ditto. It's quite annoying. I do not have this problem with the Arkansas
list serve.
Nancy Rock
<4rockbird...>
On Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 9:05 PM Dianne & Steve Kinder <
<0000041e4c13219a-dmarc-request...> wrote:
> Hmm? That might explain why something I sent awhile back didn't show up.
>
> Steve Kinder
> <dmkinder...>
>
> On Thursday, September 25, 2025 at 08:09:19 PM CDT, John and Linda
> Frederick <frederickjohnandlinda...> wrote:
>
>
> I have the same problem, despite emails from people who are in my
> "contacts" list.
>
> I look at the spam folder pretty regularly now, and virtually all MoBird
> emails are in the spam folder. I also subscribe to Iowa bird emails, but
> they come through fine, as MoBirds used to.
>
> It would be nice if someone could figure out a solution, but I know it
> isn't the list serve manager's fault.
>
> Linda Frederick
> Rolla MO
>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 7:33 PM Jean L <jaleonatti...> wrote:
>
> Dear MoBirds,
>
> I continue to have significant problems with MoBirds messages going to
> "spam" folder -- regardless that I have continually marked each sender as
> "report not spam". Today I discovered 9 MoBirds messages in Spam; all of
> those individuals had been previously un-spammed multiple times by me.
>
> This is rendering MoBirds virtually useless for timely information. Has
> anyone found a solution to this problem? I have Windows 11 and use
> Microsoft Defender for virus protection, if that makes a difference.
>
> Jean Leonatti
> <jaleonatti...>
>
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Date: 9/25/25 7:05 pm From: Dianne & Steve Kinder <0000041e4c13219a-dmarc-request...> Subject: Re: continuing problems with messages going to spam
Hmm? That might explain why something I sent awhile back didn't show up.
Steve <Kinderdmkinder...>
On Thursday, September 25, 2025 at 08:09:19 PM CDT, John and Linda Frederick <frederickjohnandlinda...> wrote:
I have the same problem, despite emails from people who are in my "contacts" list.
I look at the spam folder pretty regularly now, and virtually all MoBird emails are in the spam folder. I also subscribe to Iowa bird emails, but they come through fine, as MoBirds used to.
It would be nice if someone could figure out a solution, but I know it isn't the list serve manager's fault.
Linda Frederick Rolla MO
On Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 7:33 PM Jean L <jaleonatti...> wrote:
Dear MoBirds,
I continue to have significant problems with MoBirds messages going to "spam" folder -- regardless that I have continually marked each sender as "report not spam". Today I discovered 9 MoBirds messages in Spam; all of those individuals had been previously un-spammed multiple times by me.
This is rendering MoBirds virtually useless for timely information. Has anyone found a solution to this problem? I have Windows 11 and use Microsoft Defender for virus protection, if that makes a difference.
Jean <Leonattijaleonatti...>
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Date: 9/25/25 6:09 pm From: John and Linda Frederick <frederickjohnandlinda...> Subject: Re: continuing problems with messages going to spam
I have the same problem, despite emails from people who are in my
"contacts" list.
I look at the spam folder pretty regularly now, and virtually all MoBird
emails are in the spam folder. I also subscribe to Iowa bird emails, but
they come through fine, as MoBirds used to.
It would be nice if someone could figure out a solution, but I know it
isn't the list serve manager's fault.
Linda Frederick
Rolla MO
On Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 7:33 PM Jean L <jaleonatti...> wrote:
> Dear MoBirds,
>
> I continue to have significant problems with MoBirds messages going to
> "spam" folder -- regardless that I have continually marked each sender as
> "report not spam". Today I discovered 9 MoBirds messages in Spam; all of
> those individuals had been previously un-spammed multiple times by me.
>
> This is rendering MoBirds virtually useless for timely information. Has
> anyone found a solution to this problem? I have Windows 11 and use
> Microsoft Defender for virus protection, if that makes a difference.
>
> Jean Leonatti
> <jaleonatti...>
>
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Date: 9/25/25 6:03 pm From: John and Linda Frederick <frederickjohnandlinda...> Subject: Phelps County birds
Today at Audubon Trails in Rolla was a great day for birding. A bonanza of Sedge Wrens and Marsh Wrens. The Sedge Wrens were concentrated in the prairie area, while the Marsh Wrens were in the prairie and also scattered around in shrubby areas.
I reported 10 Sedge Wrens on eBird, but there were probably easily twice that many. I have seen many there in years past for a few days during fall migration.
There were also Rose-breasted Grosbeaks, Catbirds, Tanagers, a few warblers, several flycatchers, a few hawks overhead, and migrating monarch butterflies.
A great day to be out!
Linda Frederick Rolla MO
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Date: 9/25/25 5:33 pm From: Jean L <jaleonatti...> Subject: continuing problems with messages going to spam
Dear MoBirds,
I continue to have significant problems with MoBirds messages going to "spam" folder -- regardless that I have continually marked each sender as "report not spam". Today I discovered 9 MoBirds messages in Spam; all of those individuals had been previously un-spammed multiple times by me.
This is rendering MoBirds virtually useless for timely information. Has anyone found a solution to this problem? I have Windows 11 and use Microsoft Defender for virus protection, if that makes a difference.
Jean Leonatti <jaleonatti...>
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Date: 9/24/25 10:40 am From: Anne McCormack <mccormack491...> Subject: WGNSS stands for…
Hi Judith, and everyone. WGNSS <https://www.wgnss.org/> stands for Webster Groves Nature Study Society. Founded in 1920, started in the St. Louis suburb of Webster Groves, we have an active birding group, and groups interested in entomology, botany, and nature photography. All events are free and open to the public.
Date: 9/24/25 8:29 am From: Mary Dueren <mary.dueren...> Subject: No sighting-Interesting article
Good morning. A friend sent this to me today. Anyone who has traveled to Texas, Mexico or Central America and has seen Green Jays will appreciate this.
Date: 9/23/25 3:24 pm From: Anne McCormack <mccormack491...> Subject: WGNSS birding this week Sept. 25 & 27
On *Thursday*, Sept. 25, we will meet at 8:00 in the Gaddy Bird Garden in
Tower Grove Park <https://maps.app.goo.gl/h7Uuuzyng1NVsL4v6>, in the
northwest corner of the park. Best parking is on Magnolia Ave., just east
of Kingshighway. We'll try a few favorite spots in the park.
Probably no rain, but the grass will be wet. 🤞 for some warblers.
Migration Wed. night is predicted to be "Medium." With luck they'll stick
around the next morning. Bring lunch if you wish.
On *Saturday*, Sept. 27, we will meet at the main parking lot by the kayak
rental at Simpson Park <https://maps.app.goo.gl/KaCNsCQRLwBRV9ar8>, 1234
Marshall Rd. We'll check out the lake and trails. We'll also try the Valley
Park Levee Trail <https://maps.app.goo.gl/zNH6u4e9XD7H36ZJA> (in Valley
Park, take St. Louis Ave. to 9th Street). If you have a scope, you'll want
it for that. I have to exit early from this trip, but you may want to
explore nearby parks, including Emmeneger Park
<https://maps.app.goo.gl/NQ2Py5PDJxiz7EhHA>, 11991 Stoneywood Dr., and Powder
Valley <https://maps.app.goo.gl/VnP7u17dKehP1hLE8>, 11715 Cragwold.
Chance of rain is low. Both days are expected to be resort weather, but as
always, be prepared for some St. Louis-style changes. Water and bug spray,
of course. 🐦
--
Anne McCormack
Our Christmas Bird Count Website
<https://sites.google.com/view/weldon-spring-cbc/home>
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Date: 9/23/25 11:38 am From: Edge Wade <1edgewade...> Subject: MBS Fall Meeting
The Friday evening workshop on sparrow identification techniques led by
Kendell Loyd was much appreciated and commented on by many.
The Saturday evening keynote presentation by Don Ficken, founder of DarkSky
Missouri and Lights Out Heartland was chock full of information about the
programs and actions we all can take.
And, the field trips, led by knowledgeable GOAS member local leaders, were
superb, with a total of 117 species seen despite a notably poor showing of
shorebirds and ducks.
The silent auction brought in more than $800 for MBS programming. Thank
you, bidders.
Birding friendships were renewed amid great weather conditions (I don’t
know who Michael put in charge of weather for this one, but the results
were noteworthy.)
Thanks to all who worked to make this meeting a topnotch experience.
See y’all in St. Louis in the spring…if not before.
Meanwhile, bodacious birding!
Edge Wade
Columbia
<1edgewade...>
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