Date: 7/1/25 7:29 am From: Ira Sanders <zroadrunner14...> Subject: Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
Scott, I agree.
This brings to mind birds like Tropical Parula, Streak-backed Oriole in the
middle of winter, Hooded Orioles, Black-chinned Sparrow, Red-flanked
Bluetail (Wyoming) and Lawrence's Goldfinch which are the ones I can think
of off the top of my head. Some of these I didn't hear about because they
weren't reported on Cobirds (old gripe), but that's besides the point. Of
this short list, the Streak-backed is the most obvious to me. You have a
good point.
Ira Sanders
On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 7:58 AM Scott Rashid <pygmyowl15...> wrote:
> It’s interesting that only when the bird appears in estes that it becomes
> thought of as an escaped bird.
>
> How come it wasn’t thought of as an escapee when it was found farther
> south in Colorado?
>
> Scott Rashid
> Estes park
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 4:49 PM Susan Rosine <u5b2mtdna...> wrote:
>
>> I wonder where they are (were) kept as caged birds? Native song birds are
>> illegal to keep as pets, and the Migratory Bird Treaty Act covers the
>> Yellow Grosbeak.
>> I would assume (and hope) the Colorado sightings are not previously caged
>> birds.
>>
>> Susan Rosine
>> Brighton
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 11:55 AM Steingraeber,David <
>> <David.Steingraeber...> wrote:
>>
>>> Apparently, Yellow Grosbeaks are known to be kept as cage birds. In *Rare
>>> Birds of North America *by Howell, Lewington & Russell, the authors
>>> state, "Because yellow grosbeaks are kept in captivity (Hamilton 2001),
>>> extralimital records in both time and space are open to question." They
>>> then give several examples where various state records committees have not
>>> accepted extralimital occurrences, as well as cases where such occurrences
>>> have been accepted. They end their discussion of the topic with this:
>>> "Observers should not assume that extralimital records of this species are
>>> escaped cage birds, and all such occurrences should be carefully
>>> documented."
>>>
>>> David Steingraeber
>>> Fort Collins
>>>
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>>> *From:* <cobirds...> <cobirds...> on behalf
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>>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 29, 2025 9:02 PM
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>>> *Subject:* Re: [cobirds] Yellow Grosbeak (Larimer) - just wondering...
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>>> To my knowledge, they are not at all suitable to be a pet/caged bird.
>>> Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>
>>> Susan Rosine
>>> Brighton
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2025, 8:31 PM John Shenot <johnshenot...> wrote:
>>>
>>> I was pleased to have the chance to see the Yellow Grosbeak in Estes
>>> Park today. Even so, I find myself wondering if anyone on this group has
>>> considered (perhaps privately?) that it might be an escaped cage bird? How
>>> would one know? Given that this bird is a solid 1,000 miles out of range,
>>> without any obvious weather phenomenon to explain its presence, is it
>>> unreasonable for me to wonder?
>>>
>>> Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, sorry if it comes across that
>>> way. I'm just a curious guy...
>>>
>>> John Shenot
>>> Fort Collins
>>>
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