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Date: 3/28/26 8:14 am
From: Galveston Ornithological Society <galornsoc...>
Subject: RE: [NFLbirds] ducks
I did notice, when up there in winter, that the vast majority of ducks I saw were large ducks, primarily wild Mallards and Common Goldeneye. Of course, while large birds retain heat better than smaller ones, it is also true that there are tiny tits in the Interior of Alaska that are residents throughout the harsh winters (like 60 below) [and I don’t mean that stupid wind chill confusion).



OK, like my last sentence, I’ve got to run on…



Jim in Galveston



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My sister lives in Ohio in a place called Roaming Shores (way up in Ohio) on a nice lake. One day when I was visiting there in Jan., I looked out over her back porch and saw about 50 ducks all lined up close to each other in the middle of the lake on the water. Couldn't figure out what they were doing. Every now and then one duck would wiggle.

I called to my sister to come and look. She did, laughed, and said "Oh, they're trying to keep the ice from forming, and if it does, trying to break it off at the edge." If I lived up there on that lake I would spend a LOT of time watching those ducks! Very enjoyable. . .

Carol Magnusen
west Tallahassee, FL



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I meant to send the following to nflbirds, not just to Don.



Just a note from the Great Lakes about C Loons. This winter has been colder, snowier, and with heavier ice cover than normal, but even so, plenty of open water is available all winter for out of season loons. Many of the big inland rivers, Great Lakes harbor mouths, and the connecting waters between the GLs (St. Marys, St. Clair, Detroit, Niagara, and St. Lawrence rivers) remain ice free. Most of the Great Lakes never freeze over. A smattering of early loons have shown up this spring, and they are rare in winter, but open water is not a limiting factor for loons in winter around the Great Lakes. But the places where loons nest, inland lakes with marshy borders are still mostly frozen in northern Michigan. The southern half of the state has been much warmer and may have open water on inland lakes. Matt Johnstone







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Sent: 3/27/26 8:10 AM
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Subject: [NFLbirds] End-of-season



I went walking at Phipps Park this week and watched a Blue Jay high in an oak. All winter long, I have been watching jays fly into oak canopies, searching for acorns. This time, however, the jay fluttered in the air and grabbed a caterpillar off a leaf. Yellow-rumped Warblers were also moving among the oak branches. Last month these warblers were hunting for the last of the wax myrtle berries. Today, they were hunting for insects feeding among oak catkins, the dangly yellowish worm-like male flowers that attract caterpillars, wasps, and spiders.

We are at the end of the fruiting season when avian usage offruits, nuts, and seeds drops off sharply. By late March any tree that hasn’tdied over winter from the effects of drought has at least started leafing out.Leafout brings bugs out. Newly emerging caterpillars, spiders, flies, bugs, andbees are now a rich source of nutrients for birds.

I enjoy going beyond identification to take note of birdbehavior and have been tracking which plants they feed on for several years. Iusually have only a handful of feeding observations in April, May, and June. Bythen, the acorns, seeds and fruits of oaks, pines, and cabbage palms that haveprovided large volumes of winter food, have been mostly exhausted and the main summerfruiting plants, black cherry, swamp dogwood, grape and peppervine are justbeginning their year. Their fruit won’t be available until July, when it willprovide an additional source of mid-summer food for newly-fledged birds.

My morning walk that day had a mix of birds. The seasons inNorth Florida overlap with no sharp boundaries. This time of year, it can behard to determine whether some species are winter birds or migrants. A maleBlack-and white Warbler that I saw was likely a migrant from further south. Iam not sure about the yellow-rumps and Ruby-crowned Kinglets. They could beleftover winter birds or migrants passing through. Both are boreal nesters andsnow still covers most of Canada. Inmid-morning, I had three Common Loons fly over heading due North. They aredefinitely migrants and are headed for the Great Lakes and Canada. This istheir normal migration period, but I am not sure how they’ll deal with icedover lakes when they get there.

I had only a single feeding observation; a female EasternBluebird eating the desiccated fruits of a winged sumac. Occasionally in lateSpring or early summer I find a Red-bellied Woodpecker eating a greenbrierfruit or a Cardinal munching on a blueberry, but insects are the preferredfoodstuff at this time of year. The fruiting season is essentially over.

There are, however, always things to watch and note as youwander through the world. Yesterday, Isaw a female Northern Parula make repeated trips to a hanging clump of Spanishmoss. In the southeast parulas nest in Spanish moss. Further north they useUsnea lichens, also known as old man’s beard. She wasn’t carrying nestingmaterial, but was obviously investigating possible nest sites. I’ll keepchecking on her to see what happens.

It’s Spring. Go outside. There’s always something going on.



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Date: 3/28/26 7:38 am
From: 'Carol Magnusen' via NFLbirds <nflbirds...>
Subject: [NFLbirds] ducks
My sister lives in Ohio in a place called Roaming Shores (way up in Ohio) on a nice lake. One day when I was visiting there in Jan., I looked out over her back porch and saw about 50 ducks all lined up close to each other in the middle of the lake on the water. Couldn't figure out what they were doing. Every now and then one duck would wiggle.

I called to my sister to come and look. She did, laughed, and said "Oh, they're trying to keep the ice from forming, and if it does, trying to break it off at the edge." If I lived up there on that lake I would spend a LOT of time watching those ducks! Very enjoyable. . .

Carol Magnusen
west Tallahassee, FL


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I meant to send the following to nflbirds, not just to Don. 
Just a note from the Great Lakes about C Loons. This winter has been colder, snowier, and with heavier ice cover than normal, but even so, plenty of open water is available all winter for out of season loons. Many of the big inland rivers, Great Lakes harbor mouths, and the connecting waters between the GLs (St. Marys, St. Clair, Detroit,  Niagara, and St. Lawrence rivers) remain ice free. Most of the Great Lakes never freeze over. A smattering of early loons have shown up this spring, and they are rare in winter, but open water is not a limiting factor for loons in winter around the Great Lakes.  But the places where loons nest, inland lakes with marshy borders are still mostly frozen in northern Michigan. The southern half of the state has been much warmer and may have open water on inland lakes.  Matt Johnstone 
 
From: "Don Morrow" <donaldcmorrow...>
Sent: 3/27/26 8:10 AM
To: "NFLbirds" <nflbirds...>
Subject: [NFLbirds] End-of-season


I went walking at Phipps Park this week and watched a Blue Jay high in an oak. All winter long, I have been watching jays fly into oak canopies, searching for acorns. This time, however, the jay fluttered in the air and grabbed a caterpillar off a leaf. Yellow-rumped Warblers were also moving among the oak branches. Last month these warblers were hunting for the last of the wax myrtle berries. Today, they were hunting for insects feeding among oak catkins, the dangly yellowish worm-like male flowers that attract caterpillars, wasps, and spiders.

 We are at the end of the fruiting season when avian usage offruits, nuts, and seeds drops off sharply. By late March any tree that hasn’tdied over winter from the effects of drought has at least started leafing out.Leafout brings bugs out. Newly emerging caterpillars, spiders, flies, bugs, andbees are now a rich source of nutrients for birds.

 I enjoy going beyond identification to take note of birdbehavior and have been tracking which plants they feed on for several years. Iusually have only a handful of feeding observations in April, May, and June. Bythen, the acorns, seeds and fruits of oaks, pines, and cabbage palms that haveprovided large volumes of winter food, have been mostly exhausted and the main summerfruiting plants, black cherry, swamp dogwood, grape and peppervine are justbeginning their year. Their fruit won’t be available until July, when it willprovide an additional source of mid-summer food for newly-fledged birds.

 My morning walk that day had a mix of birds. The seasons inNorth Florida overlap with no sharp boundaries. This time of year, it can behard to determine whether some species are winter birds or migrants. A maleBlack-and white Warbler that I saw was likely a migrant from further south. Iam not sure about the yellow-rumps and Ruby-crowned Kinglets. They could beleftover winter birds or migrants passing through. Both are boreal nesters andsnow still covers most of Canada.  Inmid-morning, I had three Common Loons fly over heading due North. They aredefinitely migrants and are headed for the Great Lakes and Canada. This istheir normal migration period, but I am not sure how they’ll deal with icedover lakes when they get there.

I had only a single feeding observation; a female EasternBluebird eating the desiccated fruits of a winged sumac. Occasionally in lateSpring or early summer I find a Red-bellied Woodpecker eating a greenbrierfruit or a Cardinal munching on a blueberry, but insects are the preferredfoodstuff at this time of year. The fruiting season is essentially over.

 There are, however, always things to watch and note as youwander through the world.  Yesterday, Isaw a female Northern Parula make repeated trips to a hanging clump of Spanishmoss. In the southeast parulas nest in Spanish moss. Further north they useUsnea lichens, also known as old man’s beard. She wasn’t carrying nestingmaterial, but was obviously investigating possible nest sites. I’ll keepchecking on her to see what happens.

 It’s Spring. Go outside. There’s always something going on.



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Date: 3/27/26 7:15 am
From: 'M or C Johnstone' via NFLbirds <nflbirds...>
Subject: FWD: RE: [NFLbirds] End-of-season, re Loons, more
I meant to send the following to nflbirds, not just to Don.

Just a note from the Great Lakes about C Loons. This winter has been colder, snowier, and with heavier ice cover than normal, but even so, plenty of open water is available all winter for out of season loons. Many of the big inland rivers, Great Lakes harbor mouths, and the connecting waters between the GLs (St. Marys, St. Clair, Detroit, Niagara, and St. Lawrence rivers) remain ice free. Most of the Great Lakes never freeze over. A smattering of early loons have shown up this spring, and they are rare in winter, but open water is not a limiting factor for loons in winter around the Great Lakes. But the places where loons nest, inland lakes with marshy borders are still mostly frozen in northern Michigan. The southern half of the state has been much warmer and may have open water on inland lakes. Matt Johnstone

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From: "Don Morrow" <donaldcmorrow...>
Sent: 3/27/26 8:10 AM
To: "NFLbirds" <nflbirds...>
Subject: [NFLbirds] End-of-season

I went walking at Phipps Park this week and watched a Blue Jay high in an oak. All winter long, I have been watching jays fly into oak canopies, searching for acorns. This time, however, the jay fluttered in the air and grabbed a caterpillar off a leaf. Yellow-rumped Warblers were also moving among the oak branches. Last month these warblers were hunting for the last of the wax myrtle berries. Today, they were hunting for insects feeding among oak catkins, the dangly yellowish worm-like male flowers that attract caterpillars, wasps, and spiders.
We are at the end of the fruiting season when avian usage of fruits, nuts, and seeds drops off sharply. By late March any tree that hasn’t died over winter from the effects of drought has at least started leafing out. Leafout brings bugs out. Newly emerging caterpillars, spiders, flies, bugs, and bees are now a rich source of nutrients for birds.
I enjoy going beyond identification to take note of bird behavior and have been tracking which plants they feed on for several years. I usually have only a handful of feeding observations in April, May, and June. By then, the acorns, seeds and fruits of oaks, pines, and cabbage palms that have provided large volumes of winter food, have been mostly exhausted and the main summer fruiting plants, black cherry, swamp dogwood, grape and peppervine are just beginning their year. Their fruit won’t be available until July, when it will provide an additional source of mid-summer food for newly-fledged birds.
My morning walk that day had a mix of birds. The seasons in North Florida overlap with no sharp boundaries. This time of year, it can be hard to determine whether some species are winter birds or migrants. A male Black-and white Warbler that I saw was likely a migrant from further south. I am not sure about the yellow-rumps and Ruby-crowned Kinglets. They could be leftover winter birds or migrants passing through. Both are boreal nesters and snow still covers most of Canada. In mid-morning, I had three Common Loons fly over heading due North. They are definitely migrants and are headed for the Great Lakes and Canada. This is their normal migration period, but I am not sure how they’ll deal with iced over lakes when they get there.
I had only a single feeding observation; a female Eastern Bluebird eating the desiccated fruits of a winged sumac. Occasionally in late Spring or early summer I find a Red-bellied Woodpecker eating a greenbrier fruit or a Cardinal munching on a blueberry, but insects are the preferred foodstuff at this time of year. The fruiting season is essentially over.
There are, however, always things to watch and note as you wander through the world. Yesterday, I saw a female Northern Parula make repeated trips to a hanging clump of Spanish moss. In the southeast parulas nest in Spanish moss. Further north they use Usnea lichens, also known as old man’s beard. She wasn’t carrying nesting material, but was obviously investigating possible nest sites. I’ll keep checking on her to see what happens.
It’s Spring. Go outside. There’s always something going on.

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Date: 3/27/26 6:29 am
From: Galveston Ornithological Society <galornsoc...>
Subject: [NFLbirds] Apalachicola National Forest
My friend of ~fifty years, Richard Perry, joined me on a piney woods morning last Saturday through the longleaf and scattered swales in the wetter areas. We weren’t taking notes nor bird listing but songs were heard often as we stopped and got out every mile or two.



The most frequent species recorded was Red-eyed Vireo, not just in the damp forest but often in nearby longleafs and scattered pond pines and short-leafs. Not a wintering species, these birds have arrived and were setting up territories right at the vernal equinox. I also heard a snatch of a White-eyed Vireo song.



Pine Warblers had not started singing, but will make up for it in April. It was nice hearing Eastern Bluebirds, which nest in longleafs much more than people realize. Many Red-bellied Woodpeckers were calling but a few Red-headeds issued their odd notes. I was unable to locate a Red-cockaded for my friend. Soon, the Brown-headed Nuthatches will have more to say.



No flycatchers appeared, as phoebes have departed and spring flycatchers are not super early migrants. Other insectivores by calls included Ruby-crowned Kinglets, Carolina Wren and Blue-gray Gnatcatcher. Numbers of insectivorous birds rises dramatically from the beginning to the end of March.



Separate Red-shouldered Hawks screamed in the distance, probably happy for the warmer weather, bringing out the reptiles and amphibians they often prefer. We actually lose numbers of raptors in general in spring as most wintering species use the open ground for fertile feeding in winter. Red-tails are not common in forests heavy with longleafs, as they are ecologically separated from Red-shouldereds by density of habitat.



There is quite a difference between the bird life in the wet swales and the dry, open longleafs. After mid April, watch (listen) for Swainson’s Warbler in the swales, and even dryland birds come to these wet areas to drink.



The fact that Wild Turkeys are fairly common was no lost on the turkey hunters. I saw one bird the day before and hopefully the hunters will be careful with their heavy shot when birders are near.



In general, I believe longleaf pines are better for birding than many people realize. As we get into the breeding season, this becomes more and more obvious. The “trail” at Tall Timbers is a good opportunity to experience a well-kept piney woods ecosystem.



I actually came to Tallahassee for the wedding of a former student and it was great seeing many of my old friends. Sad to see my parent’s house gone. ☹



Jim in Galveston



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Date: 3/27/26 5:10 am
From: Don Morrow <donaldcmorrow...>
Subject: [NFLbirds] End-of-season


I went walking at Phipps Park this week and watched a Blue Jay high in an
oak. All winter long, I have been watching jays fly into oak canopies,
searching for acorns. This time, however, the jay fluttered in the air and
grabbed a caterpillar off a leaf. Yellow-rumped Warblers were also moving
among the oak branches. Last month these warblers were hunting for the last
of the wax myrtle berries. Today, they were hunting for insects feeding
among oak catkins, the dangly yellowish worm-like male flowers that attract
caterpillars, wasps, and spiders.

We are at the end of the fruiting season when avian usage of fruits, nuts,
and seeds drops off sharply. By late March any tree that hasn’t died over
winter from the effects of drought has at least started leafing out.
Leafout brings bugs out. Newly emerging caterpillars, spiders, flies, bugs,
and bees are now a rich source of nutrients for birds.

I enjoy going beyond identification to take note of bird behavior and have
been tracking which plants they feed on for several years. I usually have
only a handful of feeding observations in April, May, and June. By then,
the acorns, seeds and fruits of oaks, pines, and cabbage palms that have
provided large volumes of winter food, have been mostly exhausted and the
main summer fruiting plants, black cherry, swamp dogwood, grape and
peppervine are just beginning their year. Their fruit won’t be available
until July, when it will provide an additional source of mid-summer food
for newly-fledged birds.

My morning walk that day had a mix of birds. The seasons in North Florida
overlap with no sharp boundaries. This time of year, it can be hard to
determine whether some species are winter birds or migrants. A male
Black-and white Warbler that I saw was likely a migrant from further south.
I am not sure about the yellow-rumps and Ruby-crowned Kinglets. They could
be leftover winter birds or migrants passing through. Both are boreal
nesters and snow still covers most of Canada. In mid-morning, I had three
Common Loons fly over heading due North. They are definitely migrants and
are headed for the Great Lakes and Canada. This is their normal migration
period, but I am not sure how they’ll deal with iced over lakes when they
get there.

I had only a single feeding observation; a female Eastern Bluebird eating
the desiccated fruits of a winged sumac. Occasionally in late Spring or
early summer I find a Red-bellied Woodpecker eating a greenbrier fruit or a
Cardinal munching on a blueberry, but insects are the preferred foodstuff
at this time of year. The fruiting season is essentially over.

There are, however, always things to watch and note as you wander through
the world. Yesterday, I saw a female Northern Parula make repeated trips
to a hanging clump of Spanish moss. In the southeast parulas nest in
Spanish moss. Further north they use Usnea lichens, also known as old man’s
beard. She wasn’t carrying nesting material, but was obviously
investigating possible nest sites. I’ll keep checking on her to see what
happens.

It’s Spring. Go outside. There’s always something going on.

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Date: 3/20/26 7:02 am
From: Marcie P <mrprpc...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] asking
Re: Request.This is a scam I have gotten in my email at least several times
before. Most people don't use the word kindly. A ruptured ear drum is rare
these days and doesn't stop one from using the other ear.
Good that you asked as I know others scammed from these kinds of things.
Marcie Praetorius

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Date: 3/19/26 10:50 am
From: Jerrie Lindsey <jeleli939...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] list-serves
 

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Date: 3/19/26 9:31 am
From: Mary Balthrop <mabalthrop...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] list-serves
I really enjoy reading the emails from Don Morrow and Bob Duncan. I hope
they continue.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 9:16 AM 'Katy Nesmith' via NFLbirds <
<nflbirds...> wrote:

> I’m not on Facebook but good to know Eliza’s link is an option also.
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* <nflbirds...> <nflbirds...> on behalf
> of Nicholas Petryk <nicholas.petryk96...>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2026 9:07:43 AM
> *To:* Katy Nesmith <knesmith...>
> *Cc:* <anhinga...> <anhinga...>; eliza hawkins <ehawkins...>;
> Powers Mcleod <powersmcleod1944...>; steverp58 <steverp58...>;
> Galveston Ornithological Society <galornsoc...>; Florida birds
> North <nflbirds...>
> *Subject:* Re: [NFLbirds] list-serves
>
> Understandable. He’s not in either of those groups, but all of his
> writings get shared to Facebook too!
>
> On Mar 19, 2026, at 08:52, Katy Nesmith <knesmith...> wrote:
>
> 
> I just know that would not like to read Don Morrow's great accounts on
> WhatsApp or Discord:)
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* <nflbirds...> <nflbirds...> on behalf
> of Nicholas Petryk <nicholas.petryk96...>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2026 8:47:16 AM
> *To:* <anhinga...> <anhinga...>
> *Cc:* eliza hawkins <ehawkins...>; Powers Mcleod <
> <powersmcleod1944...>; steverp58 <steverp58...>; Galveston
> Ornithological Society <galornsoc...>; Florida birds North <
> <nflbirds...>
> *Subject:* Re: [NFLbirds] list-serves
>
> I’m sure that whoever is behind these email lists, whether Gmail, yahoo,
> etc is also some venture capital outfit… as times change, technology
> changes, and it’s best to learn and attempt to adapt with it. Most of the
> time, including this case, it improves efficiency and we’re helping science
> with birding data.
>
> On Mar 19, 2026, at 08:29, 'M or C Johnstone' via NFLbirds <
> <nflbirds...> wrote:
>
> 
> Whatsapp is a Zuckerberg thing, I am not going to support him or expose
> myself to his predation. Not sure about Discord folks, but it's some
> venture capital outfit and they are certainly looking to gain something.
> The stuff that list-serves do best doesn't require, or even benefit from,
> instant messaging; some things are best mulled over a bit before putting
> them out there.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From*: "eliza hawkins' via NFLbirds" <nflbirds...>
> *Sent*: 3/19/26 8:07 AM
> *To*: <anhinga...>,"Powers Mcleod" <powersmcleod1944...>,"steverp58"
> <steverp58...>
> *Cc*: "Galveston Ornithological Society" <galornsoc...>,"Florida
> birds North" <nflbirds...>
> *Subject*: Re: [NFLbirds] scam possibility
>
> That's why Discord and Whatsapps groups are so popular. They provide a
> platform for immediate real time discussion because you get a notice that
> someone has posted a question possibly uploaded a photo which immediately
> goes to dozens or hundreds of birder for their input....like a series of
> texts in a large group. Email is painfully slow and has other inherent
> problems supporting a discussion while apps like Discord and WhatsApp are
> instantaneous and easily support a real time discussion. Also note that
> most of the younger birders are on these apps (they are the ones out
> finding the birds and raising the questions.) These apps have succeeded
> the list servers just like the list servers succeeded the phone message
> system.
>
> If you follow the links below and download the apps to use these you will
> find they are actively used by Leon and surrounding County birders- most
> recently about the cave swallow that was found last night at Gardner
> Landing.
>
> Below is the Leon and surrounding County County birders' WhatsApp group
> link.Follow this link to join my WhatsApp group:
> https://chat.whatsapp.com/LQm1uW1e61HAL0SBug57VN?mode=gi_t
>
>
> Below is the Discord link to join the Eastern Panhandle group discussion.
> https://discord.gg/97PBwDWy4
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
> <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_315_SearchOrgConquer_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002039&af_sub5=C01_Email_Static_&af_ios_store_cpp=0c38e4b0-a27e-40f9-a211-f4e2de32ab91&af_android_url=https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?<id...>&listing=search_organize_conquer>
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 5:48 AM, M or C Johnstone
> <anhinga...> wrote:
> It is unfortunate, in my view, that birding list-serves are nearing
> extinction. EBird is a wonderful resource for many aspects of birding, but
> it is not a good forum to discuss birds and matters related to birding. If
> locating and listing birds is all one is interested in, eBird is probably a
> better tool than list serves. But you can't have a discussion about molt,
> migration patterns and weather, behaviour, birding ethics, and on and on in
> eBird. I find consideration of those matters more interesting than building
> my lists (not that I don't work on that, too). As for social media, many
> of us are not interested in contributing to the interests and wealth of
> Zuckerberg, Musk, et al. I realize I am a dinosaur and list-serves aren't
> coming back, but their demise is a loss to our appreciation and
> understanding of birds.
> Matt Johnstone (suffering through another horrible Michigan winter)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From*: "eliza hawkins' via NFLbirds" <nflbirds...>
> *Sent*: 3/18/26 10:03 PM
> *To*: "Powers Mcleod" <powersmcleod1944...>,"steverp58" <
> <steverp58...>
> *Cc*: "Galveston Ornithological Society" <galornsoc...>,"Florida
> birds North" <nflbirds...>
> *Subject*: Re: [NFLbirds] scam possibility
>
> I don't believe many people are using this list service for birding
> anymore. Most of the people who are birding regularly have moved to eBird
> which sends out alerts to everybody whenever you post a good bird.
> Otherwise they are using Discord or Whatsapp for birding discussions.
>
> Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
> <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_315_SearchOrgConquer_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002039&af_sub5=C01_Email_Static_&af_ios_store_cpp=0c38e4b0-a27e-40f9-a211-f4e2de32ab91&af_android_url=https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?<id...>&listing=search_organize_conquer>
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 5:57 PM, Powers Mcleod
> <powersmcleod1944...> wrote:
> I got the same msg and did not respond suspecting the same.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 18, 2026, at 4:02 PM, steverp58 <steverp58...> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Yes, Dotty got hacked and the emails are a scam. Just talked to her.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Galveston Ornithological Society <galornsoc...>
> Date: 3/18/26 4:57 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: North Florida birds <nflbirds...>
> Subject: [NFLbirds] scam possibility
>
> A very important person to this Bird List just asked me to do a favor for
> her and I would cut off my right arm for her.
>
>
>
> However, I suspect this might be a scam. Is anyone aware of any scams on
> NF Birders?
>
>
>
> Jim in Galveston
>
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Date: 3/19/26 6:16 am
From: 'Katy Nesmith' via NFLbirds <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] list-serves
I’m not on Facebook but good to know Eliza’s link is an option also.

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________________________________
From: <nflbirds...> <nflbirds...> on behalf of Nicholas Petryk <nicholas.petryk96...>
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2026 9:07:43 AM
To: Katy Nesmith <knesmith...>
Cc: <anhinga...> <anhinga...>; eliza hawkins <ehawkins...>; Powers Mcleod <powersmcleod1944...>; steverp58 <steverp58...>; Galveston Ornithological Society <galornsoc...>; Florida birds North <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] list-serves

Understandable. He’s not in either of those groups, but all of his writings get shared to Facebook too!

On Mar 19, 2026, at 08:52, Katy Nesmith <knesmith...> wrote:


I just know that would not like to read Don Morrow's great accounts on WhatsApp or Discord:)

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
________________________________
From: <nflbirds...> <nflbirds...> on behalf of Nicholas Petryk <nicholas.petryk96...>
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2026 8:47:16 AM
To: <anhinga...> <anhinga...>
Cc: eliza hawkins <ehawkins...>; Powers Mcleod <powersmcleod1944...>; steverp58 <steverp58...>; Galveston Ornithological Society <galornsoc...>; Florida birds North <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] list-serves

I’m sure that whoever is behind these email lists, whether Gmail, yahoo, etc is also some venture capital outfit… as times change, technology changes, and it’s best to learn and attempt to adapt with it. Most of the time, including this case, it improves efficiency and we’re helping science with birding data.

On Mar 19, 2026, at 08:29, 'M or C Johnstone' via NFLbirds <nflbirds...> wrote:


Whatsapp is a Zuckerberg thing, I am not going to support him or expose myself to his predation. Not sure about Discord folks, but it's some venture capital outfit and they are certainly looking to gain something. The stuff that list-serves do best doesn't require, or even benefit from, instant messaging; some things are best mulled over a bit before putting them out there.



________________________________
From: "eliza hawkins' via NFLbirds" <nflbirds...>
Sent: 3/19/26 8:07 AM
To: <anhinga...>,"Powers Mcleod" <powersmcleod1944...>,"steverp58" <steverp58...>
Cc: "Galveston Ornithological Society" <galornsoc...>,"Florida birds North" <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] scam possibility

That's why Discord and Whatsapps groups are so popular. They provide a platform for immediate real time discussion because you get a notice that someone has posted a question possibly uploaded a photo which immediately goes to dozens or hundreds of birder for their input....like a series of texts in a large group. Email is painfully slow and has other inherent problems supporting a discussion while apps like Discord and WhatsApp are instantaneous and easily support a real time discussion. Also note that most of the younger birders are on these apps (they are the ones out finding the birds and raising the questions.) These apps have succeeded the list servers just like the list servers succeeded the phone message system.

If you follow the links below and download the apps to use these you will find they are actively used by Leon and surrounding County birders- most recently about the cave swallow that was found last night at Gardner Landing.

Below is the Leon and surrounding County County birders' WhatsApp group link.Follow this link to join my WhatsApp group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/LQm1uW1e61HAL0SBug57VN?mode=gi_t


Below is the Discord link to join the Eastern Panhandle group discussion.
https://discord.gg/97PBwDWy4




Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer<https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_315_SearchOrgConquer_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002039&af_sub5=C01_Email_Static_&af_ios_store_cpp=0c38e4b0-a27e-40f9-a211-f4e2de32ab91&af_android_url=https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?<id...>&listing=search_organize_conquer>

On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 5:48 AM, M or C Johnstone
<anhinga...> wrote:
It is unfortunate, in my view, that birding list-serves are nearing extinction. EBird is a wonderful resource for many aspects of birding, but it is not a good forum to discuss birds and matters related to birding. If locating and listing birds is all one is interested in, eBird is probably a better tool than list serves. But you can't have a discussion about molt, migration patterns and weather, behaviour, birding ethics, and on and on in eBird. I find consideration of those matters more interesting than building my lists (not that I don't work on that, too). As for social media, many of us are not interested in contributing to the interests and wealth of Zuckerberg, Musk, et al. I realize I am a dinosaur and list-serves aren't coming back, but their demise is a loss to our appreciation and understanding of birds.
Matt Johnstone (suffering through another horrible Michigan winter)



________________________________
From: "eliza hawkins' via NFLbirds" <nflbirds...>
Sent: 3/18/26 10:03 PM
To: "Powers Mcleod" <powersmcleod1944...>,"steverp58" <steverp58...>
Cc: "Galveston Ornithological Society" <galornsoc...>,"Florida birds North" <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] scam possibility

I don't believe many people are using this list service for birding anymore. Most of the people who are birding regularly have moved to eBird which sends out alerts to everybody whenever you post a good bird. Otherwise they are using Discord or Whatsapp for birding discussions.

Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer<https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_315_SearchOrgConquer_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002039&af_sub5=C01_Email_Static_&af_ios_store_cpp=0c38e4b0-a27e-40f9-a211-f4e2de32ab91&af_android_url=https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?<id...>&listing=search_organize_conquer>

On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 5:57 PM, Powers Mcleod
<powersmcleod1944...> wrote:
I got the same msg and did not respond suspecting the same.
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2026, at 4:02 PM, steverp58 <steverp58...> wrote:


Yes, Dotty got hacked and the emails are a scam. Just talked to her.



Sent from my Galaxy


-------- Original message --------
From: Galveston Ornithological Society <galornsoc...>
Date: 3/18/26 4:57 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: North Florida birds <nflbirds...>
Subject: [NFLbirds] scam possibility


A very important person to this Bird List just asked me to do a favor for her and I would cut off my right arm for her.



However, I suspect this might be a scam. Is anyone aware of any scams on NF Birders?



Jim in Galveston


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Date: 3/19/26 6:08 am
From: Nicholas Petryk <nicholas.petryk96...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] list-serves
 

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Date: 3/19/26 6:07 am
From: 'eliza hawkins' via NFLbirds <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] list-serves
Great point! And definitely something we don't want to lose. I enjoy his wonderful emails which are posted simewhere. I will make sure that I post the link to his next "email" update in WhatsApp or Discord so all the birders who have left this list serve or the Young birders Who never joined it can also benefit.
St Marks posts them I'm not sure this is the latest though:
https://stmarksrefuge.org/blog/june-at-st-marks-national-wildlife-refuge/

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On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 8:52 AM, 'Katy Nesmith' via NFLbirds<nflbirds...> wrote: I just know that would not like to read Don Morrow's great accounts on WhatsApp or Discord:)
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Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2026 8:47:16 AM
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Cc: eliza hawkins <ehawkins...>; Powers Mcleod <powersmcleod1944...>; steverp58 <steverp58...>; Galveston Ornithological Society <galornsoc...>; Florida birds North <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] list-serves I’m sure that whoever is behind these email lists, whether Gmail, yahoo, etc is also some venture capital outfit… as times change, technology changes, and it’s best to learn and attempt to adapt with it. Most of the time, including this case, it improves efficiency and we’re helping science with birding data. 

On Mar 19, 2026, at 08:29, 'M or C Johnstone' via NFLbirds <nflbirds...> wrote:



Whatsapp is a Zuckerberg thing, I am not going to support him or expose myself to his predation. Not sure about Discord folks, but it's some venture capital outfit and they are certainly looking to gain something. The stuff that list-serves do best doesn't require, or even benefit from, instant messaging; some things are best mulled over a bit before putting them out there. 
 
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Sent: 3/19/26 8:07 AM
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Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] scam possibility

That's why Discord and Whatsapps groups are so popular.  They provide a platform for immediate real time discussion because you get a notice that someone has posted a question possibly uploaded a photo which immediately goes to dozens or hundreds of birder for their input....like a series of texts in a large group.   Email is painfully slow and has other inherent problems supporting a discussion while apps like Discord and WhatsApp are instantaneous and easily support a real time discussion.  Also note that most of the younger birders are on these apps (they are the ones out finding the birds and raising the questions.)  These apps have succeeded the list servers  just like the list servers succeeded the phone message system.  
If you follow the links below and download the apps to use these you will find they are actively used by Leon and surrounding County birders- most recently about the cave swallow that was found last night at Gardner Landing.
Below is the Leon and surrounding County County birders' WhatsApp group link.Follow this link to join my WhatsApp group:https://chat.whatsapp.com/LQm1uW1e61HAL0SBug57VN?mode=gi_t

Below is the Discord link to join the Eastern Panhandle group discussion.https://discord.gg/97PBwDWy4



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On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 5:48 AM, M or C Johnstone<anhinga...> wrote:It is unfortunate, in my view, that birding list-serves are nearing extinction. EBird is a wonderful resource for many aspects of birding, but it is not a good forum to discuss birds and matters related to birding. If locating and listing birds is all one is interested in, eBird is probably a better tool than list serves. But you can't have a discussion about molt, migration patterns and weather, behaviour, birding ethics, and on and on in eBird. I find consideration of those matters more interesting than building my lists (not that I don't work on that, too).  As for social media, many of us are not interested in contributing to the interests and wealth of Zuckerberg, Musk, et al. I realize I am a dinosaur and list-serves aren't coming back, but their demise is a loss to our appreciation and understanding of birds.Matt Johnstone (suffering through another horrible Michigan winter) 
 
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Sent: 3/18/26 10:03 PM
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Cc: "Galveston Ornithological Society" <galornsoc...>,"Florida birds North" <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] scam possibility

I don't believe many people are using this list service for birding anymore. Most of the people who are birding regularly have moved to eBird which sends out alerts to everybody whenever you post a good bird. Otherwise they are using Discord or Whatsapp for birding discussions.
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On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 5:57 PM, Powers Mcleod<powersmcleod1944...> wrote:I got the same msg and did not respond suspecting the same.
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2026, at 4:02 PM, steverp58 <steverp58...> wrote:




Yes, Dotty got hacked and the emails are a scam. Just talked to her.


Sent from my Galaxy

-------- Original message --------From: Galveston Ornithological Society <galornsoc...>Date: 3/18/26 4:57 PM (GMT-05:00)To: North Florida birds <nflbirds...>Subject: [NFLbirds] scam possibility

A very important person to this Bird List just asked me to do a favor for her and I would cut off my right arm for her. 

 

However, I suspect this might be a scam. Is anyone aware of any scams on NF Birders?

 

Jim in Galveston



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Date: 3/19/26 5:52 am
From: 'Katy Nesmith' via NFLbirds <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] list-serves
I just know that would not like to read Don Morrow's great accounts on WhatsApp or Discord:)

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From: <nflbirds...> <nflbirds...> on behalf of Nicholas Petryk <nicholas.petryk96...>
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2026 8:47:16 AM
To: <anhinga...> <anhinga...>
Cc: eliza hawkins <ehawkins...>; Powers Mcleod <powersmcleod1944...>; steverp58 <steverp58...>; Galveston Ornithological Society <galornsoc...>; Florida birds North <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] list-serves

I’m sure that whoever is behind these email lists, whether Gmail, yahoo, etc is also some venture capital outfit… as times change, technology changes, and it’s best to learn and attempt to adapt with it. Most of the time, including this case, it improves efficiency and we’re helping science with birding data.

On Mar 19, 2026, at 08:29, 'M or C Johnstone' via NFLbirds <nflbirds...> wrote:


Whatsapp is a Zuckerberg thing, I am not going to support him or expose myself to his predation. Not sure about Discord folks, but it's some venture capital outfit and they are certainly looking to gain something. The stuff that list-serves do best doesn't require, or even benefit from, instant messaging; some things are best mulled over a bit before putting them out there.



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Sent: 3/19/26 8:07 AM
To: <anhinga...>,"Powers Mcleod" <powersmcleod1944...>,"steverp58" <steverp58...>
Cc: "Galveston Ornithological Society" <galornsoc...>,"Florida birds North" <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] scam possibility

That's why Discord and Whatsapps groups are so popular. They provide a platform for immediate real time discussion because you get a notice that someone has posted a question possibly uploaded a photo which immediately goes to dozens or hundreds of birder for their input....like a series of texts in a large group. Email is painfully slow and has other inherent problems supporting a discussion while apps like Discord and WhatsApp are instantaneous and easily support a real time discussion. Also note that most of the younger birders are on these apps (they are the ones out finding the birds and raising the questions.) These apps have succeeded the list servers just like the list servers succeeded the phone message system.

If you follow the links below and download the apps to use these you will find they are actively used by Leon and surrounding County birders- most recently about the cave swallow that was found last night at Gardner Landing.

Below is the Leon and surrounding County County birders' WhatsApp group link.Follow this link to join my WhatsApp group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/LQm1uW1e61HAL0SBug57VN?mode=gi_t


Below is the Discord link to join the Eastern Panhandle group discussion.
https://discord.gg/97PBwDWy4




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On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 5:48 AM, M or C Johnstone
<anhinga...> wrote:
It is unfortunate, in my view, that birding list-serves are nearing extinction. EBird is a wonderful resource for many aspects of birding, but it is not a good forum to discuss birds and matters related to birding. If locating and listing birds is all one is interested in, eBird is probably a better tool than list serves. But you can't have a discussion about molt, migration patterns and weather, behaviour, birding ethics, and on and on in eBird. I find consideration of those matters more interesting than building my lists (not that I don't work on that, too). As for social media, many of us are not interested in contributing to the interests and wealth of Zuckerberg, Musk, et al. I realize I am a dinosaur and list-serves aren't coming back, but their demise is a loss to our appreciation and understanding of birds.
Matt Johnstone (suffering through another horrible Michigan winter)



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Sent: 3/18/26 10:03 PM
To: "Powers Mcleod" <powersmcleod1944...>,"steverp58" <steverp58...>
Cc: "Galveston Ornithological Society" <galornsoc...>,"Florida birds North" <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] scam possibility

I don't believe many people are using this list service for birding anymore. Most of the people who are birding regularly have moved to eBird which sends out alerts to everybody whenever you post a good bird. Otherwise they are using Discord or Whatsapp for birding discussions.

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On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 5:57 PM, Powers Mcleod
<powersmcleod1944...> wrote:
I got the same msg and did not respond suspecting the same.
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2026, at 4:02 PM, steverp58 <steverp58...> wrote:


Yes, Dotty got hacked and the emails are a scam. Just talked to her.



Sent from my Galaxy


-------- Original message --------
From: Galveston Ornithological Society <galornsoc...>
Date: 3/18/26 4:57 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: North Florida birds <nflbirds...>
Subject: [NFLbirds] scam possibility


A very important person to this Bird List just asked me to do a favor for her and I would cut off my right arm for her.



However, I suspect this might be a scam. Is anyone aware of any scams on NF Birders?



Jim in Galveston


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Date: 3/19/26 5:47 am
From: Nicholas Petryk <nicholas.petryk96...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] list-serves
 

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Date: 3/19/26 5:38 am
From: Georgia Turner <georgia.r.turner...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] Birds!
I love receiving the emails

Georgia Turner
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On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 8:06 AM 'Nancy Lang' via NFLbirds <
<nflbirds...> wrote:

> I’m here! Use this list every day!
>
> Nan
>
> On Wednesday, March 18, 2026 at 10:03:42 PM EDT, 'eliza hawkins' via
> NFLbirds <nflbirds...> wrote:
>
>
> I don't believe many people are using this list service for birding
> anymore. Most of the people who are birding regularly have moved to eBird
> which sends out alerts to everybody whenever you post a good bird.
> Otherwise they are using Discord or Whatsapp for birding discussions.
>
> Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
> <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_315_SearchOrgConquer_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002039&af_sub5=C01_Email_Static_&af_ios_store_cpp=0c38e4b0-a27e-40f9-a211-f4e2de32ab91&af_android_url=https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?<id...>&listing=search_organize_conquer>
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 5:57 PM, Powers Mcleod
> <powersmcleod1944...> wrote:
> I got the same msg and did not respond suspecting the same.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 18, 2026, at 4:02 PM, steverp58 <steverp58...> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Yes, Dotty got hacked and the emails are a scam. Just talked to her.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Galveston Ornithological Society <galornsoc...>
> Date: 3/18/26 4:57 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: North Florida birds <nflbirds...>
> Subject: [NFLbirds] scam possibility
>
> A very important person to this Bird List just asked me to do a favor for
> her and I would cut off my right arm for her.
>
>
>
> However, I suspect this might be a scam. Is anyone aware of any scams on
> NF Birders?
>
>
>
> Jim in Galveston
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Date: 3/19/26 5:29 am
From: 'M or C Johnstone' via NFLbirds <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] list-serves
Whatsapp is a Zuckerberg thing, I am not going to support him or expose myself to his predation. Not sure about Discord folks, but it's some venture capital outfit and they are certainly looking to gain something. The stuff that list-serves do best doesn't require, or even benefit from, instant messaging; some things are best mulled over a bit before putting them out there.

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From: "eliza hawkins' via NFLbirds" <nflbirds...>
Sent: 3/19/26 8:07 AM
To: <anhinga...>,"Powers Mcleod" <powersmcleod1944...>,"steverp58" <steverp58...>
Cc: "Galveston Ornithological Society" <galornsoc...>,"Florida birds North" <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] scam possibility

That's why Discord and Whatsapps groups are so popular. They provide a platform for immediate real time discussion because you get a notice that someone has posted a question possibly uploaded a photo which immediately goes to dozens or hundreds of birder for their input....like a series of texts in a large group. Email is painfully slow and has other inherent problems supporting a discussion while apps like Discord and WhatsApp are instantaneous and easily support a real time discussion. Also note that most of the younger birders are on these apps (they are the ones out finding the birds and raising the questions.) These apps have succeeded the list servers just like the list servers succeeded the phone message system.

If you follow the links below and download the apps to use these you will find they are actively used by Leon and surrounding County birders- most recently about the cave swallow that was found last night at Gardner Landing.

Below is the Leon and surrounding County County birders' WhatsApp group link.Follow this link to join my WhatsApp group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/LQm1uW1e61HAL0SBug57VN?mode=gi_t

Below is the Discord link to join the Eastern Panhandle group discussion.

https://discord.gg/97PBwDWy4

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On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 5:48 AM, M or C Johnstone

<anhinga...> wrote:

It is unfortunate, in my view, that birding list-serves are nearing extinction. EBird is a wonderful resource for many aspects of birding, but it is not a good forum to discuss birds and matters related to birding. If locating and listing birds is all one is interested in, eBird is probably a better tool than list serves. But you can't have a discussion about molt, migration patterns and weather, behaviour, birding ethics, and on and on in eBird. I find consideration of those matters more interesting than building my lists (not that I don't work on that, too). As for social media, many of us are not interested in contributing to the interests and wealth of Zuckerberg, Musk, et al. I realize I am a dinosaur and list-serves aren't coming back, but their demise is a loss to our appreciation and understanding of birds.

Matt Johnstone (suffering through another horrible Michigan winter)

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From: "eliza hawkins' via NFLbirds" <nflbirds...>
Sent: 3/18/26 10:03 PM
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Cc: "Galveston Ornithological Society" <galornsoc...>,"Florida birds North" <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] scam possibility

I don't believe many people are using this list service for birding anymore. Most of the people who are birding regularly have moved to eBird which sends out alerts to everybody whenever you post a good bird. Otherwise they are using Discord or Whatsapp for birding discussions.

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On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 5:57 PM, Powers Mcleod

<powersmcleod1944...> wrote:

I got the same msg and did not respond suspecting the same.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2026, at 4:02 PM, steverp58 <steverp58...> wrote:



Yes, Dotty got hacked and the emails are a scam. Just talked to her.

Sent from my Galaxy

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Date: 3/18/26 4:57 PM (GMT-05:00)

To: North Florida birds <nflbirds...>

Subject: [NFLbirds] scam possibility

A very important person to this Bird List just asked me to do a favor for her and I would cut off my right arm for her.

However, I suspect this might be a scam. Is anyone aware of any scams on NF Birders?

Jim in Galveston

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Date: 3/19/26 5:29 am
From: <DottRobb...> <DottRobb...>
Subject: [NFLbirds] Re: RE:
Good morning,
I hope you are doing so well. I need you to help me with a favor but I am currently unavailable over the phone because I have a ruptured eardrum and the Doctor told me to stay away from calls for now. Kindly let me know when you receive this. Thanks,Dotty

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Date: 3/19/26 5:28 am
From: 'eliza hawkins' via NFLbirds <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] scam possibility
Also note that wherever you are in the country there are probably WhatsApp groups and/or Discord groups for birding in that particular local area which are easy to join if you're birding out of the state.  
And there is no spam in these groups!

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On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 8:06 AM, 'eliza hawkins' via NFLbirds<nflbirds...> wrote: That's why Discord and Whatsapps groups are so popular.  They provide a platform for immediate real time discussion because you get a notice that someone has posted a question possibly uploaded a photo which immediately goes to dozens or hundreds of birder for their input....like a series of texts in a large group.   Email is painfully slow and has other inherent problems supporting a discussion while apps like Discord and WhatsApp are instantaneous and easily support a real time discussion.  Also note that most of the younger birders are on these apps (they are the ones out finding the birds and raising the questions.)  These apps have succeeded the list servers  just like the list servers succeeded the phone message system.  
If you follow the links below and download the apps to use these you will find they are actively used by Leon and surrounding County birders- most recently about the cave swallow that was found last night at Gardner Landing.
Below is the Leon and surrounding County County birders' WhatsApp group link.Follow this link to join my WhatsApp group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/LQm1uW1e61HAL0SBug57VN?mode=gi_t

Below is the Discord link to join the Eastern Panhandle group discussion.https://discord.gg/97PBwDWy4



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On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 5:48 AM, M or C Johnstone<anhinga...> wrote: It is unfortunate, in my view, that birding list-serves are nearing extinction. EBird is a wonderful resource for many aspects of birding, but it is not a good forum to discuss birds and matters related to birding. If locating and listing birds is all one is interested in, eBird is probably a better tool than list serves. But you can't have a discussion about molt, migration patterns and weather, behaviour, birding ethics, and on and on in eBird. I find consideration of those matters more interesting than building my lists (not that I don't work on that, too).  As for social media, many of us are not interested in contributing to the interests and wealth of Zuckerberg, Musk, et al. I realize I am a dinosaur and list-serves aren't coming back, but their demise is a loss to our appreciation and understanding of birds.Matt Johnstone (suffering through another horrible Michigan winter) 
 
From: "eliza hawkins' via NFLbirds" <nflbirds...>
Sent: 3/18/26 10:03 PM
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Cc: "Galveston Ornithological Society" <galornsoc...>,"Florida birds North" <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] scam possibility

I don't believe many people are using this list service for birding anymore. Most of the people who are birding regularly have moved to eBird which sends out alerts to everybody whenever you post a good bird. Otherwise they are using Discord or Whatsapp for birding discussions.
Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer

On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 5:57 PM, Powers Mcleod<powersmcleod1944...> wrote:I got the same msg and did not respond suspecting the same.
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2026, at 4:02 PM, steverp58 <steverp58...> wrote:




Yes, Dotty got hacked and the emails are a scam. Just talked to her.


Sent from my Galaxy

-------- Original message --------From: Galveston Ornithological Society <galornsoc...>Date: 3/18/26 4:57 PM (GMT-05:00)To: North Florida birds <nflbirds...>Subject: [NFLbirds] scam possibility

A very important person to this Bird List just asked me to do a favor for her and I would cut off my right arm for her. 

 

However, I suspect this might be a scam. Is anyone aware of any scams on NF Birders?

 

Jim in Galveston



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Date: 3/19/26 5:07 am
From: 'Nancy Lang' via NFLbirds <nflbirds...>
Subject: [NFLbirds] Birds!
I’m here! Use this list every day!
Nan
On Wednesday, March 18, 2026 at 10:03:42 PM EDT, 'eliza hawkins' via NFLbirds <nflbirds...> wrote:

I don't believe many people are using this list service for birding anymore. Most of the people who are birding regularly have moved to eBird which sends out alerts to everybody whenever you post a good bird. Otherwise they are using Discord or Whatsapp for birding discussions.

Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer

On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 5:57 PM, Powers Mcleod<powersmcleod1944...> wrote: I got the same msg and did not respond suspecting the same.
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2026, at 4:02 PM, steverp58 <steverp58...> wrote:




Yes, Dotty got hacked and the emails are a scam. Just talked to her.


Sent from my Galaxy

-------- Original message --------From: Galveston Ornithological Society <galornsoc...> Date: 3/18/26 4:57 PM (GMT-05:00) To: North Florida birds <nflbirds...> Subject: [NFLbirds] scam possibility

A very important person to this Bird List just asked me to do a favor for her and I would cut off my right arm for her.

 

However, I suspect this might be a scam. Is anyone aware of any scams on NF Birders?

 

Jim in Galveston


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Date: 3/19/26 5:06 am
From: 'eliza hawkins' via NFLbirds <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] scam possibility
That's why Discord and Whatsapps groups are so popular.  They provide a platform for immediate real time discussion because you get a notice that someone has posted a question possibly uploaded a photo which immediately goes to dozens or hundreds of birder for their input....like a series of texts in a large group.   Email is painfully slow and has other inherent problems supporting a discussion while apps like Discord and WhatsApp are instantaneous and easily support a real time discussion.  Also note that most of the younger birders are on these apps (they are the ones out finding the birds and raising the questions.)  These apps have succeeded the list servers  just like the list servers succeeded the phone message system.  
If you follow the links below and download the apps to use these you will find they are actively used by Leon and surrounding County birders- most recently about the cave swallow that was found last night at Gardner Landing.
Below is the Leon and surrounding County County birders' WhatsApp group link.Follow this link to join my WhatsApp group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/LQm1uW1e61HAL0SBug57VN?mode=gi_t

Below is the Discord link to join the Eastern Panhandle group discussion.https://discord.gg/97PBwDWy4



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On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 5:48 AM, M or C Johnstone<anhinga...> wrote: It is unfortunate, in my view, that birding list-serves are nearing extinction. EBird is a wonderful resource for many aspects of birding, but it is not a good forum to discuss birds and matters related to birding. If locating and listing birds is all one is interested in, eBird is probably a better tool than list serves. But you can't have a discussion about molt, migration patterns and weather, behaviour, birding ethics, and on and on in eBird. I find consideration of those matters more interesting than building my lists (not that I don't work on that, too).  As for social media, many of us are not interested in contributing to the interests and wealth of Zuckerberg, Musk, et al. I realize I am a dinosaur and list-serves aren't coming back, but their demise is a loss to our appreciation and understanding of birds.Matt Johnstone (suffering through another horrible Michigan winter) 
 
From: "eliza hawkins' via NFLbirds" <nflbirds...>
Sent: 3/18/26 10:03 PM
To: "Powers Mcleod" <powersmcleod1944...>,"steverp58" <steverp58...>
Cc: "Galveston Ornithological Society" <galornsoc...>,"Florida birds North" <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] scam possibility

I don't believe many people are using this list service for birding anymore. Most of the people who are birding regularly have moved to eBird which sends out alerts to everybody whenever you post a good bird. Otherwise they are using Discord or Whatsapp for birding discussions.
Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer

On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 5:57 PM, Powers Mcleod<powersmcleod1944...> wrote:I got the same msg and did not respond suspecting the same.
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2026, at 4:02 PM, steverp58 <steverp58...> wrote:




Yes, Dotty got hacked and the emails are a scam. Just talked to her.


Sent from my Galaxy

-------- Original message --------From: Galveston Ornithological Society <galornsoc...>Date: 3/18/26 4:57 PM (GMT-05:00)To: North Florida birds <nflbirds...>Subject: [NFLbirds] scam possibility

A very important person to this Bird List just asked me to do a favor for her and I would cut off my right arm for her. 

 

However, I suspect this might be a scam. Is anyone aware of any scams on NF Birders?

 

Jim in Galveston



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Date: 3/19/26 2:48 am
From: 'M or C Johnstone' via NFLbirds <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] scam possibility
It is unfortunate, in my view, that birding list-serves are nearing extinction. EBird is a wonderful resource for many aspects of birding, but it is not a good forum to discuss birds and matters related to birding. If locating and listing birds is all one is interested in, eBird is probably a better tool than list serves. But you can't have a discussion about molt, migration patterns and weather, behaviour, birding ethics, and on and on in eBird. I find consideration of those matters more interesting than building my lists (not that I don't work on that, too). As for social media, many of us are not interested in contributing to the interests and wealth of Zuckerberg, Musk, et al. I realize I am a dinosaur and list-serves aren't coming back, but their demise is a loss to our appreciation and understanding of birds.

Matt Johnstone (suffering through another horrible Michigan winter)

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From: "eliza hawkins' via NFLbirds" <nflbirds...>
Sent: 3/18/26 10:03 PM
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Cc: "Galveston Ornithological Society" <galornsoc...>,"Florida birds North" <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] scam possibility

I don't believe many people are using this list service for birding anymore. Most of the people who are birding regularly have moved to eBird which sends out alerts to everybody whenever you post a good bird. Otherwise they are using Discord or Whatsapp for birding discussions.

Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer

On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 5:57 PM, Powers Mcleod

<powersmcleod1944...> wrote:

I got the same msg and did not respond suspecting the same.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2026, at 4:02 PM, steverp58 <steverp58...> wrote:



Yes, Dotty got hacked and the emails are a scam. Just talked to her.

Sent from my Galaxy

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From: Galveston Ornithological Society <galornsoc...>

Date: 3/18/26 4:57 PM (GMT-05:00)

To: North Florida birds <nflbirds...>

Subject: [NFLbirds] scam possibility

A very important person to this Bird List just asked me to do a favor for her and I would cut off my right arm for her.

However, I suspect this might be a scam. Is anyone aware of any scams on NF Birders?

Jim in Galveston

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Date: 3/18/26 7:03 pm
From: 'eliza hawkins' via NFLbirds <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] scam possibility
I don't believe many people are using this list service for birding anymore. Most of the people who are birding regularly have moved to eBird which sends out alerts to everybody whenever you post a good bird. Otherwise they are using Discord or Whatsapp for birding discussions.

Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer

On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 5:57 PM, Powers Mcleod<powersmcleod1944...> wrote: I got the same msg and did not respond suspecting the same.
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2026, at 4:02 PM, steverp58 <steverp58...> wrote:




Yes, Dotty got hacked and the emails are a scam. Just talked to her.


Sent from my Galaxy

-------- Original message --------From: Galveston Ornithological Society <galornsoc...> Date: 3/18/26 4:57 PM (GMT-05:00) To: North Florida birds <nflbirds...> Subject: [NFLbirds] scam possibility

A very important person to this Bird List just asked me to do a favor for her and I would cut off my right arm for her.

 

However, I suspect this might be a scam. Is anyone aware of any scams on NF Birders?

 

Jim in Galveston


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Date: 3/18/26 4:09 pm
From: <dotrobbins...> <dotrobbins...>
Subject: [NFLbirds] RE:
Hi, I sent you an email, Did you receive it? Thanks,Dotty

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Date: 3/18/26 3:10 pm
From: Galveston Ornithological Society <galornsoc...>
Subject: [NFLbirds] asking
You know, if Dotty was in need of a favor, isn’t it better to ask?



I prefer Worf’s philosophy about asking questions.



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Date: 3/18/26 2:57 pm
From: Powers Mcleod <powersmcleod1944...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] scam possibility
 

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Date: 3/18/26 2:02 pm
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Subject: RE: [NFLbirds] scam possibility
Yes, Dotty got hacked and the emails are a scam. Just talked to her.Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Galveston Ornithological Society <galornsoc...> Date: 3/18/26 4:57 PM (GMT-05:00) To: North Florida birds <nflbirds...> Subject: [NFLbirds] scam possibility A very important person to this Bird List just asked me to do a favor for her and I would cut off my right arm for her.  However, I suspect this might be a scam. Is anyone aware of any scams on NF Birders? Jim in Galveston



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Date: 3/18/26 2:00 pm
From: 'Katy Nesmith' via NFLbirds <nflbirds...>
Subject: Re: [NFLbirds] scam possibility
It went all I believe, not just you

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Subject: [NFLbirds] scam possibility


A very important person to this Bird List just asked me to do a favor for her and I would cut off my right arm for her.



However, I suspect this might be a scam. Is anyone aware of any scams on NF Birders?



Jim in Galveston

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Date: 3/18/26 1:57 pm
From: Galveston Ornithological Society <galornsoc...>
Subject: [NFLbirds] scam possibility
A very important person to this Bird List just asked me to do a favor for
her and I would cut off my right arm for her.



However, I suspect this might be a scam. Is anyone aware of any scams on NF
Birders?



Jim in Galveston

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Date: 3/18/26 9:49 am
From: <dotrobbins...> <dotrobbins...>
Subject: [NFLbirds] Re:
Good morning,
I hope you are doing so well. I need you to help me with a favor but I am currently unavailable over the phone because I have a ruptured eardrum and the Doctor told me to stay away from calls for now. Kindly let me know when you receive this. Thanks,Dotty

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Date: 3/2/26 4:02 pm
From: Ron P. <rpforter...>
Subject: [NFLbirds] Ron P.
Quick question, Do you order things thru Amazo n?
Thank you,
Ron Pforter

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